Alternate techniques for De-Essing

[louieshowers]

Originally Posted by YYR123

Nice will check it out

+1

[louieshowers]

Originally Posted by Meads

The SPL DeEsser ist the best I used so far. It's the only one I'm aware, that doesn't get triggered by volume but by waveform. It detects the "s" frequency and attenuates it via phase cancellation.
I always had the issue with stuff like Waves Deesser and the like, that once somebody is screaming or vocals get very loud the Deesser kicked in very harshly even though there wasn't even an "s", making the vocal very dull.
Don't have that issue anymore. Highly recommend the SPL Desser.

thanks .. You are correct about the volume triggering..in those cases I would use automation on the threshold for those instances of screaming. Increase the threshold to provide less reduction during screams...But I am definitely going to check out the SPL Deesser. Sounds awesome. Thanks!

[Meads]

Originally Posted by louieshowers

thanks .. You are correct about the volume triggering..in those cases I would use automation on the threshold for those instances of screaming. Increase the threshold to provide less reduction during screams...But I am definitely going to check out the SPL Deesser. Sounds awesome. Thanks!

Of course. That's how I used to do it. But I found that very annoying.
Now with the SPL, it's just one thing less to worry about.
This is one of the rare plugins I would not ever want to miss or have to replace any more.

[YYR123]

And those guys are already AAX correct?

[Meads]

Originally Posted by YYR123

And those guys are already AAX correct?

Yes. They also have ported some to AAX DSP. Not the DeEsser, though.

[BohoProAudio]

So, no fans of pass filter bus compression here? I think it offers more flexibility than using a single purpose de-esser.

[louieshowers]

Originally Posted by BohoProAudio

So, no fans of pass filter bus compression here? I think it offers more flexibility than using a single purpose de-esser.

could you explain?

[BohoProAudio]

First, send the vocal track to two mono aux tracks. One will be hi pass, one will be lo pass. Find a bad ess region to fix. Put a pass filter on the lo pass which rolls off the sibilance frequency. Process that aux as you normally would on the vox. On the hi pass aux, put a pass filter at the same crossover point, to get rid of the lows so you can apply a more aggressive compression ratio to keep the air without cutting heads off. Then send both to another aux and mix to taste.

[janmuths]

Instead of de-esser plug ins, I now use clip gain. Takes a moment, but sounds superior to all plug ins I've ever used (at least to my ears).

[Guy McDude]

Originally Posted by janmuths

Instead of de-esser plug ins, I now use clip gain. Takes a moment, but sounds superior to all plug ins I've ever used (at least to my ears).

agreed.
Also a great fix for finger/ fretting noise on acoustic tracks.