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Old 07-03-2017, 11:38 AM
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Default PT 12.8 Bug - Layered Editing doesn't turn off

Hello.

Pro Tools 12.8 doesn't disable 'layered editing' regardless of the button (located under the pencil tool) being off.

In other words, with 'layered editing' on or off, dragging a clip on top of another clip and then deleting the dragged clip doesn't separate the latter - is this happening to someone else?

Time to go back to 12.6 I guess...

Edit: I'm in Windows 10, 32GB Ram, i7 with 512GB SSD.

Pro Tools 12.7 worked perfectly fine.

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Old 07-03-2017, 12:32 PM
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Default Re: PT 12.8 Bug - Layered Editing doesn't turn off.

Ok so I've been trying a few things:

Dragging a clip in the middle of another clip (and then deleting) will split the latter.

However, dragging a clip at the end of another clip (overlapping the last part including its end) will NOT trim the latter, once the dragged clip is deleted, the overlapped clip returns to its initial length.
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Old 07-03-2017, 02:18 PM
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Default Re: PT 12.8 Bug - Layered Editing doesn't turn off.

I can't reproduce this error.

Check the video and see if I'm doing anything wrong

They layer editing seems ok to me.
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Old 07-04-2017, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: PT 12.8 Bug - Layered Editing doesn't turn off.

Well that's exactly what I mean - I can see it in your video, you see when you overlap the end (or beginning) of the clip and then remove the overlapping clip, the overlapped audio returns to its original length - i need it to stay trimmed.

Basically turning 'layered editing' off is NOT working to trim clips, only to separate them.
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Old 07-04-2017, 03:27 PM
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Default Re: PT 12.8 Bug - Layered Editing doesn't turn off.

I've tried with 12.7.1 and the layer editing as the same behaviour.

It's a bug, 12.6.0 and 12.6.1 don't do this it started with 12.7.0

Nice catch.
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Old 08-31-2017, 03:43 AM
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Default Re: PT 12.8 Bug - Layered Editing doesn't turn off.

PT 12.8.1 is showing the same behavior. However, I have tested this in 12.5.2, before layered editting was introduced, and it's doing the exact same thing. Putting a clip over the end of another clip doesn't trim the clip when removed, it's being restored to it's original length.
Maybe 12.6 is wrong and reverted in 12.7.
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Old 10-26-2017, 01:37 PM
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Default Re: PT 12.8 Bug - Layered Editing doesn't turn off

It's driving me crazy because Shuffle mode doesn't work right with Layered editing turned on. Since it's no longer possible to turn it off, I have to use all kinds of weird tricks and workarounds to get edited clips to shuffle properly. Real pain. Almost enough to drive me to revert to PT11.
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Old 10-26-2017, 04:14 PM
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Default Re: PT 12.8 Bug - Layered Editing doesn't turn off

Layered editing working fine over here .. specs in signature.

https://streamable.com/y4kqz
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Old 10-27-2017, 06:04 AM
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Default Re: PT 12.8 Bug - Layered Editing doesn't turn off

Thanks for that video example Trent. Mine works correctly in simple situations like that, as well. But real-world edits are a mess. So I need to correct my description. Turning Layered editing on and off does make a difference. But Shuffle mode gets messed up by layers whether it's on or off. This does change the nature of my pending Ideascale post. Instead of reporting it as a bug, I will request that Shuffle mode editing work the way it did before layers were a thing.

May I ask what you used for video screen capture?
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Old 10-27-2017, 04:02 PM
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Default Re: PT 12.8 Bug - Layered Editing doesn't turn off

Can you make a video to show how you "like" it to use before the layering was introduce?

You can use Quicktime X to screen capture. Just go to file and the options is there.

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