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Old 07-24-2014, 12:37 AM
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Default BUG> Send doesnt mute when track is muted

At least on my Setup (current 10.3.8) PT HD and HD Accell 2
i have the following Bug:

I am using few AUX tracks for different microphones as inputs which i route
then to the recording track. Each of the AUX tracks has PRE FADER SENDS
which feed REVIBE on another AUX track.

When MUTING the AUX INPUTS (microphones) the PRE FADER SENDS
are STILL OPEN and feed REVIBE!!!
They should be closed too !!

So far i remember in earlier Version was everything as expected which
means IF AN AUX INPUT IS MUTED THE SEND IS MUTED TOO.

in the Hope it get fixed soon..

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Old 07-24-2014, 01:32 AM
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Default Re: BUG> Send doesnt mute when track is muted

it mutes if it is post fader, not pre
TB/FX are usually done post fader
Cue sends are usually pre fader
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:13 AM
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Default Re: BUG> Send doesnt mute when track is muted

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When MUTING the AUX INPUTS (microphones) the PRE FADER SENDS
are STILL OPEN and feed REVIBE!!!
They should be closed too !!
nope, always been this way. As it should.

Some analog consoles had internal dip switches which allowed this to be toggled, but the default behavior of PT is how it's always been done.

Why not feed the verb from the record track? Then, only the sent mic will get the verb.
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Old 07-24-2014, 06:57 AM
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Default Re: BUG> Send doesnt mute when track is muted

Just to concur, yup, pre fader sends do not follow the fader actions. That is why they are labeled pre fader. This behavior, as Drew has said, is common analog consol behavior unless a custom modification has been made.

Also, if you have any high latency plugins on those mic aux's you will feel the latency of those plugins when you are recording. If you record directly onto the audio tracks there will be no perceived latency. If this something that you already know and I am stating the obvious sorry for butting in.
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Old 07-24-2014, 07:07 AM
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nope, always been this way. As it should.

Some analog consoles had internal dip switches which allowed this to be toggled, but the default behavior of PT is how it's always been done.

Why not feed the verb from the record track? Then, only the sent mic will get the verb.
As it "should" for some, but not for all. This infuriates me as it makes doing headphone mixes a PITA. I have been begging Avid to change or at least offer a preference for those of us that want pre-fade sends to follow track mute(just a simple check box in prefs would be a Godsend). Can't tell you many times I mute the scratch vocal and start tracking the lead, when the singers says, "I still hear another voice"......
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Old 07-31-2014, 07:50 AM
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Default Re: BUG> Send doesnt mute when track is muted

It is necessary to function that way especially if you are creating a headphone mix and want to monitor and listen differently than the artist

However, I think what you are missing is that you can view the sends with mute, fader and pan on the sends view.

Goto the view menu, and under the sends assignment, click the send name, like Send A for example, and you will see it all.

So now you don't have to open each send fader to see if it is muted or not.

AVID won't change the way it works. This is what most of us do and it is simple and easy.

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Old 07-31-2014, 08:13 AM
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so this?: http://protools.ideascale.com/a/dtd/17689-3779
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Old 07-31-2014, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: BUG> Send doesnt mute when track is muted

I could find the option of muting pre-send aux at the same time as the channel beneficiary for those that needs it that way, but it should only be an option.
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