Protools 11 A HUGE FIASCO 99% plugins currently available are useless. Beware.

[jpsonicajp50]

Simply useless for the time being. This gives my studio a forceful adoption of Logic. I've been a more than 20 years proud protools user, with this new update and without a 32 bit bridge option which could have been implemented, this brings all of us back to SQ 1. My HDX recently upgraded will be on ebay by the weekend. Corporate greed has become our number one ennemy.

[kelco83]

Cool can I have your stuff?

[WKG]

Originally Posted by jpsonicajp50

Simply useless for the time being. This gives my studio a forceful adoption of Logic. I've been a more than 20 years proud protools user, with this new update and without a 32 bit bridge option which could have been implemented, this brings all of us back to SQ 1. My HDX recently upgraded will be on ebay by the weekend. Corporate greed has become our number one ennemy.

It's been common knowledge for quite some time that PT11 will be 64 bit AAX only. Developers will be updating in rather short order.

Did you take the time to read anything prior to spending your money?

[Zarabozo]

Originally Posted by jpsonicajp50

Simply useless for the time being. This gives my studio a forceful adoption of Logic. I've been a more than 20 years proud protools user, with this new update and without a 32 bit bridge option which could have been implemented, this brings all of us back to SQ 1. My HDX recently upgraded will be on ebay by the weekend. Corporate greed has become our number one ennemy.

Nice! Please post a link to your eBay listings.

[joesackic]

This thread is ridiculous. All of the information you needed to make an informed purchase was right in front of you. Walking around with your blinders on and you wallet out is a bad idea period.

If you don't like pt11 right now just keep using 10. You still have both licenses, nothing changes for you at all. When pt11 gets all the plugins ported you need just switch over at your leisure, when you have some down time or test off another pt computer.

This is a massive undertaking for all parties involved and it will take some time. This should not be a surprise to anyone who hasn't been stuck in a cave with no Internet connection for the last 1 1/2 years.

[nexis]

your license for PT11 will still work for the time. You can continue to work with PT10 until all or most of your plugins have been updated to AAX 64 bit. Hope this helps :)
nexis

[Gonk]

"Simply useless for the time being."

I guess, until THIRD parties provide plug ins, so, not Avid's fault.

"Forced adoption of Logic"

Really? Did 10 just refuse to work? did it die? has it stopped doing what it was doing a week before 11 got released?
How have you worked for the last 20 years without the features in PT11?
The lack of a 32 bit bridge is a bonus, the pains that Cubase and Logic users went through with 32 bit bridge is not worth the ability to use old plug ins.
I could understand your frustration if 10 could not be run side by side with 11 but it does.


"Corporate greed has become out number one enemy"

This statement is true but tell me, how does this relate to Pro Tools 11 being 64 bit and 3rd party developers not having their act together?

I would love for PT11 to be up and running with all my plug ins but transition takes time, there is a need for patience.
AVID have delivered their side of the bargain, now it's up others to catch up...
Meanwhile...

[Oblivion777]

Originally Posted by joesackic

This thread is ridiculous. All of the information you needed to make an informed purchase was right in front of you. Walking around with your blinders on and you wallet out is a bad idea period.

If you don't like pt11 right now just keep using 10. You still have both licenses, nothing changes for you at all. When pt11 gets all the plugins ported you need just switch over at your leisure, when you have some down time or test off another pt computer.

This is a massive undertaking for all parties involved and it will take some time. This should not be a surprise to anyone who hasn't been stuck in a cave with no Internet connection for the last 1 1/2 years.

Agree with this statement completely!

[uptheoctave]

... because as we know PT10 has stopped working completely.
That is how it works, right- they release a software update and all of the previous versions self-destruct.

Look, updating is optional and it takes time for versions to become viable.
There is not a single professional studio in the world that will be using PT 11 for commercial work right now.
It might take months until it is a viable option.

[musicman691]

I was going to start a thread similar to this but from the point of view that PT11 is useless for me at this point due to my heavy hitter plugins (NI and BFD2) not being AAX 64 bit yet. Yes I knew and know all about what has to be in place to use PT11 but in my current workflow here 90% or better needs most of the NI product line and BFD2 for both recording and mixing so all the whiz-bang features in PT11 mean nothing to me AT THIS TIME.

I cannot say PT11 is a fiasco as there are so many people that can use it as is and have the plugs they need working that for them it's a win.

For me I'll continue to happily work in PT10.3.6 getting my work done. I have the demo of PT11 and it does have some nice features but again - at this time and place it has nothing for me. In the future when NI and fxpansion get their stuff in aax 64 bit then I'll happily move to PT11.

And for those that need to be able to use all their ram over the limits of a 32 bit os then there's always VEPro 5 which I think with their dongle is about the same price as the PT10 to PT11 upgrade price.

Also think of it this way - does one really need to be on the bleeding edge of software? Let the first updates for PT11 come out to get the wrinkles out and there'll be less to worry and whine about when you do move to PT11. Let somebody else be the guinea pig (aka unpaid beta tester).