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Suggestion to fix the annoying cmd grid/slip toggle modifier issue
Hi all- I know this has been brough up many times: the slip to grid selection modifier (pressing command while in slip jumps the cursor to the next grid line) is extremely inefficient and changes the behavior of years of muscle memory; I keep inadvertently pressing command out of habit when I want to select a precise spot no matter what Edit Mode is active. Now pressing command while in slip does the opposite behavior compared to being in grid, making you constantly double check what edit mode you're in. I don't believe this was a requested feature ever, and I've seen way more complaints than praise on here about the change. The fact that you cannot disable this behavior is what makes it incredibly annoying.
So if you click-drag to make a selection while in slip, pressing command will now extend the selection to the nearest Grid line. This sucks, but Ok. However while holding right-click down to keep the selection movable, performing an action which also uses command (i.e. separate clip - Cmd+E) causes the selection to jump to a gird line BUT only performs the action on the initial selection, not what is currently highlighted by holding command in slip. This is extremely confusing. If the devs are not going to make this an option or change it back to pre 12.5 behavior, then PLEASE- make it so the slip/grid mod does not kick in unless you press command BEFORE you click on the timeline. After I've clicked and held right-click to keep the selection movable, I want to be able to use Command for actions without it messing with my selection, especially if the action is not going to affect what is currently selected. This wastes a lot of time when speed editing, and I am constantly having to pay attention to edit modes now. The fact that it is a small box away from where I am looking makes this even more annoying. Before it was not necessary to know what mode you were in, as holding command always meant SLIP or that the selection follows the exact spot clicked no matter what. I do not think they tested this in the real world before making it a permanent "feature" that is a drastic change from how PT modifiers have always been for many, many years. I don't really see how this feature helps out much. Honestly would just love for it to be back how it was... Any thoughts? Please keep this issue in the air if it bothers you too. here's a link to an old thread discussing this issue: http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=403245 Thanks!! |
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Re: Suggestion to fix the annoying cmd grid/slip toggle modifier issue
Prefer how it is now. When speed editing music while tracking the current vice versa method is very handy.
But then I don't have an impairment of constantly holding right-click -- I can let go for a split second to apply a command and reselecting a separated clip takes no time at all. This would make the whole system pointless: The point is to be able to change how you are doing selections on the fly while working. If you had to know before starting a selection, then it is completely pointless.
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Re: Suggestion to fix the annoying cmd grid/slip toggle modifier issue
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Having said that, the old muscle memory still catches me out a lot of the time of course. |
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you're killin me lol. regardless it should've been an option 100%. you do need to keep checking your edit mode now which was not a thing before. now it would make more sense to be able to lock out both spot AND shuffle modes. that way cycling through edit modes is more of a grid/slip switch. I am assuming these are the most important edit modes for everyone anyways. |
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Re: Suggestion to fix the annoying cmd grid/slip toggle modifier issue
I have my Expert Mouse programed so that one of the buttons switches between Slip/Grid so this really isn't an issue.
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Re: Suggestion to fix the annoying cmd grid/slip toggle modifier issue
It's true that people are probably mainly alternating between slap and grid modes. However I can count on one hand the number of times I've accidentally hit the wrong mode. (Unlike, say, using the wrong flipping trim tool, which I seem to do on an hourly basis...)
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Re: Suggestion to fix the annoying cmd grid/slip toggle modifier issue
I urgently ask for an option box, to get PT in the state it behaved BEFORE this new "feature" of snapping the selection to the next grid, when holding down the cmd key.
I do a lot of speed editing and therefore just use shortcuts to toggle between different tool selections. the cmd-key is mandatory in this, and if I select something and switch to the next tool (e.g. cmd+3 or cmd+4) I have to make shure to release my finger from the mouse button, so the selection doesn’t accidently snap to the next grid. This is extremely annoying and slows me down. By the way, I’m not alone with this issue. Every single editor here is cursing over this behavior. So PLEASE make this an option to select somewhere in the preferences. |
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Re: Suggestion to fix the annoying cmd grid/slip toggle modifier issue
Please keep bringing this up until it's addressed. still messes me up regularly.
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Re: Suggestion to fix the annoying cmd grid/slip toggle modifier issue
Definitely agree with having it as a preference. And I think on balance I would go back to old behaviour as well. The number of times you want something snapped to the grid when you're in slip mode - even music that is grid based - is pretty low really isn't it. If I want grid mode, I'll select it, thanks all the same Avid.
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