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Old 03-04-2006, 06:04 AM
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Default Stereo or mono, that\'s the question.

Hi all!

Is there a way to be able to control independent gains over a stereo linked channel? please, tell me that is already there and I haven't find it ;-)

I was doing a convention with hundreds of snapshots where every ponent bring me 3 or 4 CD's. I don't know what the hell was happening, but most of them were really bad recorded. I know that I can temporaily use multiselect to be able to EQ each selected channel at time, but I cannot find the way to do it for plug ins.

Well, every approach I tried had some behaviuor so, control over individual gains on stereo channels would definetely solve my problem, any other idea apart from being multiselecting channels every 2 minutes during 8 hours? :-(

thank you for your help!!

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Old 03-04-2006, 08:57 AM
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Hi rgr,

If I understand your question correctly, you are asking if you can simply use a stereo channel as opposed to a pair of mono channels, and wondering how to control gain of left-right on a stereo channel independently.

On a stereo channel, there is a main gain control that adjusts both left and right gain in concert. There is a second control, just below gain on the screen, called Right Offset. This gives you independent control of the right channel gain to make balance adjustments which I think is just what you need.

One thing to be aware of when using Right Offset, though, is that it cannot "create gain from nothing." So if you've already set your main gain to the maximum value, then you cannot add anymore gain with Right Offset. Likewise, if you are at the bottom of your gain range, you can't use Right Offset to attenuate anymore. In this circumstance you could insert the pad, bring your main gain up and then adjust Right Offset down.

Right Offset is assignable to the lower encoder on the channel strips.

I hope this helps.

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Old 03-04-2006, 09:15 AM
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Default Re: Stereo or mono, that\'s the question.

Thank you matt.

Yes, I've tried it, but Right offset cannot attenuate the right signal only increase the value. If you have a very low left signal and a normal right, you cannot compensate. I'm wrong?

another idea is to have two mono channels linked permanently. this will allow at least control over EQ and gain.

and excuse me all for my english.

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Old 03-05-2006, 11:32 AM
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Roger,

The Right Offset has a range of -20 to +18dB so you should be able to reduce the input level of the Right side. That said, the Offset range is limited to the overall minimum and maximum gain settings, so if your main Gain is already set to the lowest possible value, you cannot turn Right Offset down. It sounds like this might be your situation.

Some solutions:
Try raising the main Gain setting first, then adjust Right Offset down.

- or -

In the Patchbay, swap the left-right positions of the inputs to your channel. Now your quiet channel will be on the Right, so you can use Right Offset to raise it's gain. To fix the stereo image, adjust the Width knob to full Reverse Stereo.

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Old 03-05-2006, 03:29 PM
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Default Re: Stereo or mono, that\'s the question.

Thank you Matt for your patience.

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Roger,

The Right Offset has a range of -20 to +18dB so you should be able to reduce the input level of the Right side. That said, the Offset range is limited to the overall minimum and maximum gain settings, so if your main Gain is already set to the lowest possible value, you cannot turn Right Offset down. It sounds like this might be your situation.

better explained, impossible.

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Some solutions:
Try raising the main Gain setting first, then adjust Right Offset down.

I was doing this couple of times, but it's not as quick as I desire, And I must do it so many times. well, maybe I'm not skilled enough ;-)

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In the Patchbay, swap the left-right positions of the inputs to your channel. Now your quiet channel will be on the Right, so you can use Right Offset to raise it's gain. To fix the stereo image, adjust the Width knob to full Reverse Stereo.

-Matt

I really appreciate your solutions, and I don't want to fire Venue, but this solution is still not as quick as desired.

a simple permanent linked channel will simplify the job. But I admit that this is the first time that I use Venue in a convention. The other two times were Live with a band and, yes, I have some suggestions, but everything works like a charm.

once again, thank you matt!!
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Old 03-06-2006, 02:32 PM
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Okay, I think I understand your workflow a bit better now. If you can't rehearse the show with the actual sources to the point that you can snapshot the gain settings as needed, then I think you should consider using a stereo Aux pair, or perhaps a Stereo Group for the plug-ins that you need (so they will be linked all the time). This way you could use two mono channels for your CD inputs and have quick control of gain and fader levels always at your fingertips.

But, of course, if the show is going to be repeated, then snapshots would be the best way to combat the problematic levels coming from the CD player.

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