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Re: Pro Tools 2020.1
Most yes, but some no. There were new releases which we'd wiped and rolled back one iteration for the sake of PT.
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Then I'm sure that's a fair call about this particular machine.
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#63
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That is just what 16" MBP and new Mac Pro are, that is my point exactly
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Correct, the MBP 16" and the new MacPro are the only two machines at this point that can only run Catalina and beyond.
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It's good that we have an ex-Apple support person to verify this, but it's not always been the case. I do remember a couple of instances where the previous OS didn't easily go onto a newly-released model and we had to trick it, but it worked. And we should lose sight of the fact that this is not a good thing Apple has done. And I suppose we shouldn't forget that some OSs do make accommodations for upcoming models even before those models are released. We've seen it in the code. Perhaps it was only to allow beta testers using soon to be outdated machines to test the new iteration of the OS, but, again, it has worked historically. Apple hardware-tethering new machines is not something I'm excited about, and it's primarily from the angle or ProTools that it's an issue.
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There may have been an odd exception or two where new hardware was actually developed on the older OS but came out after the new OS in the last couple of decades, but those would be outliers. The original Mac Pros come to mind where the 2009 4,1 could be flashed with 5,1 firmware and the 2010 and 2012 5,1's were actually the exact same machines with different processor options. This is nothing new. Apple isn't going to go back and patch an obsolete OS to support new hardware. There have been untold times where one could not buy a new mac to run Pro Tools until Digidesign/Avid updated their software.
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Which is what I tried to point out in my original post... perhaps not clearly enough. It’s always been this way.
I’m not sure I’d want to run a system that was tricked into running an OS it was never designed to run on, especially on a production machine. Pro Tools is flaky enough. We’d be adding fuel to the fire. =P Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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I actually support Apple's hardware restrictions and control (to a degree), and it is, after all, a large part of what makes their closed-universe more stable. And it's only an issue every few years. |
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It was a different time, and tricking the computer was part of the gig. SCSI IDs, extension conflicts, versions of QT compatible with necessary application A but not necessary application B, hardware revisions that didn't work with particular expansion chassis but were required for the Avid video card, no downloadable software to speak of, etc. Getting a complex studio to function perfectly, and keeping it that way, took effort. So it wasn't so unusual to run anything that might be considered tricked today.
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I’m not THAT young.
FYI - I still use SCSI today. =P Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
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