Avid Pro Audio Community

Avid Pro Audio Community

How to Join & Post  •  Community Terms of Use  •  Help Us Help You

Knowledge Base Search  •  Community Search  •  Learn & Support


Avid Home Page

Go Back   Avid Pro Audio Community > General Discussion & Off Topic > General Discussion

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1  
Old 02-28-2004, 04:52 AM
Eduardo Apolonia Eduardo Apolonia is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Portugal
Posts: 335
Default Question to Dangerous summing box owners?

I will have both a 2Bus and a 2-Bus LT to test and I am preparing a mix that I am doing rigth now so that I can make a fair comparison between PT summing bus, 2-Bus and 2-Bus LT.

I have a doubt about mono.

In Protools:
When I assign a mono track to a stereo bus the volume on the bus is less 2.5dbs
EX: Bass drum hitting at -1db on the track will appear as -3.5db on the stereo bus.

In Dangerous 2-Bus how does the mono act? The same as PT?

Thanks
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 02-28-2004, 10:38 PM
Rusty G. Rusty G. is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 37
Default Re: Question to Dangerous summing box owners?

Sorry, I can't answer your question, but I'm interested in the Dangerous 2 Bus. Please post your results. I think it does more to hear from someone in the real world who is looking to spend his hard earned cash on something than it does from a sales pitch.

Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 02-29-2004, 03:18 AM
Eduardo Apolonia Eduardo Apolonia is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Portugal
Posts: 335
Default Re: Question to Dangerous summing box owners?

I got my answer right away from dangerous people:

"Hello Eduardo - What you are referring to is known as PAN LAW. Pro Tools has a pan law of around 2.5dB, so if you pan a single track in the middle of a stereo output pair it will be 2.5dB down. As you pan either L or R the pan law diminishes until it is at unity gain when panned full L or R. If you assign a track to a direct output and use the Mono switch on the 2-Bus, the track will be sent to the center of the mix at unity gain (no pan law)."
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 03-01-2004, 04:07 AM
Eduardo Apolonia Eduardo Apolonia is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: Portugal
Posts: 335
Default Re: Question to Dangerous summing box owners?

I think that this can make the test a little bit tricky.
I heard 2 files (from Gearslutz I think) of someone who did a summing box vs PT summing and the bassdrum on the 2Bus was much more presence than on the PT summing, this it leaves me to think that maybe he was not considering this Pan Law difference between both

Rusty G.,
I will post my opinions as soon as I have made the test.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 04-18-2012, 11:00 PM
melvindesk melvindesk is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: duarte, CA
Posts: 6
Default Re: Question to Dangerous summing box owners?

hai all,

i just got this bus 2 LT, i curious about the gain control. Clock wise, which position is the unity gain?

thx
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 04-19-2012, 06:02 AM
nst7 nst7 is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Cincinnati OH
Posts: 9,775
Default Re: Question to Dangerous summing box owners?

According to the manual, fully clockwise is unity gain.

But they recommend having it around 12:00 for most mixes.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 04-19-2012, 06:36 AM
AudioPiranha AudioPiranha is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 13
Smile Re: Question to Dangerous summing box owners?

All the way up is Unity Gain. 12 O'clock is about 6 dB's down. Bob from Dangerous suggests to start around 12'Oclock and hit the outputs of Protools into the summing bus pretty hard, then adjust it a bit. If you have a compressor on the output of the summing box back into PT, this is a good place to use the gain knob. The box has tremendous amounts of headroom. I only use my summing box now. I have an apogee Symphony with 16 outs and I use 12 of them into the summing box. The stereo image is quite extraordinary.

Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 04-19-2012, 12:52 PM
melvindesk melvindesk is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: duarte, CA
Posts: 6
Default Re: Question to Dangerous summing box owners?

thx guys...
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 04-19-2012, 03:25 PM
IntelDoc IntelDoc is offline
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Monument, Colorado
Posts: 4,193
Default Re: Question to Dangerous summing box owners?

Quote:
Originally Posted by AudioPiranha View Post
All the way up is Unity Gain. 12 O'clock is about 6 dB's down. Bob from Dangerous suggests to start around 12'Oclock and hit the outputs of Protools into the summing bus pretty hard, then adjust it a bit. If you have a compressor on the output of the summing box back into PT, this is a good place to use the gain knob. The box has tremendous amounts of headroom. I only use my summing box now. I have an apogee Symphony with 16 outs and I use 12 of them into the summing box. The stereo image is quite extraordinary.

Correct 12 o'clock is -6db down but it reads 0 on the unit. Box boxes (the 2 bus and the LT are the same minus the +6DB boost on the 2 buss.

Great box - been on it for almost 2 years now coming off a API DSM rig
__________________
MONUMENT SOUND

MONUMENT SOUND ON REVERBNATION

Monument Sound Facebook

"Changing how people hear music one track at a time"
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
ProFire 2626 + Dangerous D-Box: Correct Routing for Summing??? cueball73 Pro Tools M-Powered (Mac) 2 12-31-2010 02:46 PM
Anyone using a dangerous d-box with 003rack?/Benefits of analog summing? Digitopian 003, Mbox 2, Digi 002, original Mbox, Digi 001 (Mac) 3 06-03-2009 11:17 AM
Analog summing, Dangerous vs. Mackie? FredrikThomander Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) 43 08-20-2004 03:58 PM
Dangerous 2bus analog summing Bryan Cook Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) 15 06-22-2003 12:29 AM
Dangerous Music 2-Bus LT question bruceup Pro Tools TDM Systems (Mac) 4 04-29-2003 09:18 PM


All times are GMT -7. The time now is 03:41 AM.


Powered by: vBulletin, Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Limited. Forum Hosted By: URLJet.com