Midi Control Not working in Pro tools 11.0.1 but works in pro tools 10.3.6???

[bleudog]

Hello Everyone

i have what i believe to be a simple answer that i am unable to find.

Problem:
unable to get my Yamaha MO6 to control the virtual instruments in the instrument tracks (Xpand2, Vacuum, DB33 etc..) in pro tools 11.0.1 but does work in pro tools 10.3.6

i am using a digi 003 rack+
i also notice that when starting up PT 11.0.1 it gets stuck on initializing midi engine for about 40 secs. not sure if its related but im thinking it is.

any advice on this would be greatly appreciated. thank you in advance

SiSoftware Sandra

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[Emcha_audio]

Quick question, how did you plug your Yamaha? What protocol is it using to communicate with pro tools and control the VI, Hui? Have you checked if there's a new driver that was written to work with PT 11 (just throwing ideas here)?

On an other topic since I'm pretty sure this has nothing to do with your problem, mix matching ram sticks will potentially cause you stability issues, it might not, but it can.

[bleudog]

Manny thanks for responding

I will try to answer your questions as best as I can.

I plug in the yamaha midi out into midi in of the digi 003 no USB.
And midi out of digi 003 to midi in of yamaha.

Protocols are standard set up based on the yamaha manual and also from the avid knowledge database on how to set up midi with a yamaha keyboard.

I did check for yamaha drivers but only available ones are the midi-USB connection which I am not using.

I liked to reemphasize that when I load up PT 10.3.6
All is working as it should.
But for some reason in 11.0.1 it does not.
Again I suspect that the lag time in loading specifically when it hangs on "initializing midi engine" has something to do with it.

Anyone else having issues with the midi in 11?

[zedhed]

Have you installed latest 003 drivers?

http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/d...02-003-Drivers

[bleudog]

Yes I did install the latest drivers I double checked just make sure.
No luck

[Southsidemusic]

Originally Posted by bleudog

Yes I did install the latest drivers I double checked just make sure.
No luck

Have you tried to set the "midi thru" to ON or OFF in PT11 as I think that setting was set to a working "deafult" setting in PT10 but not in PT11.

Might be that this is set to either ON or Off so try and set it to the opposite of whatever it is set to now and try again.

Christopher

[bleudog]

Christopher

Appreciate the advice just tried it didn't work

[musicman691]

Originally Posted by bleudog

Manny thanks for responding

I will try to answer your questions as best as I can.

I plug in the yamaha midi out into midi in of the digi 003 no USB.
And midi out of digi 003 to midi in of yamaha.

Protocols are standard set up based on the yamaha manual and also from the avid knowledge database on how to set up midi with a yamaha keyboard.

I did check for yamaha drivers but only available ones are the midi-USB connection which I am not using.

I liked to reemphasize that when I load up PT 10.3.6
All is working as it should.
But for some reason in 11.0.1 it does not.
Again I suspect that the lag time in loading specifically when it hangs on "initializing midi engine" has something to do with it.

Anyone else having issues with the midi in 11?

Part of your problem is Yamaha synths are very picky about sending MIDI controls to the outside world. You're really going to need the USB drivers and connect the MIDI that way and not the old fashioned 5 pin way. Give that a try and see if it works. Also make sure your Yamaha keyboard is setup exactly how you want to have it - it can only work via 5 pin MIDI or USB MIDI one at a time and if you have that set on the wrong thing in the MO6 then you won't get the controls working like you want.

I have an original Motif 7 so I've been there, done that with Yamaha synths. They're not the easiest of keyboards to work with. Between their documentation and operating system it's headache time.

[bleudog]

Jack

I hear what your saying about the yamaha keys. Pain the rear.
I will have to try a USB connection and see if that works.

Just odd that it works in 10 but not in 11

[bleudog]

I changed to korg keyboard to control the vi in pro tools 11
Thinking that perhaps the yamaha keyboard was the issue

But the korg keyboard did not work either.

I believe the elephant in the room that keeps getting larger is the the hang time on "initializing midi engine" during start up. But have yet to find any info on this.

Strange indeed.

Well I will need to buy a USB midi to see if that will work For Pt11