Mac OS Compatibility Issue PT 23.9 . Same as it ever was ...

[jepmus]

I just downloaded PT 23.9.0.155. I went to Avid's OS Compatibility page to find Mac OS support up to 13.5.2.
As far as I know, prior to the 9/21/23 update to the compatibility page, the most current supported Mac OS was 13.4.1.
Apple is now offering 13.6. This sort of thing has happened many times over the years, but it is so frustrating.
Does anyone know where (or how) I can download an official Apple install of 13.5.2 ?

Thanks in advance,

jep

[dominicperry]

Links here


https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-ventur...ly-from-apple/


Webpage is not Apple, but the download links are Apple.


Dominic

[Darryl Ramm]

I am not sure why you are so worried about this. Most users just accept the macOS point releases. I cannot recall a time they caused major issues, and if they did folks would be screaming about problems. Most users likely should be taking point updates for security related things. And it is good to see so many security related updates from Apple. Edit: See https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201222

Given all the complex computer/interface/control surface etc. testing matrix that Avid has you are just not going to ever get rapid certification on point releases.

What does cause significant number of issues is plugin compatibility and that is something that you have more control over and probably worth spending time worrying about.

[Obsidian Dragon]

Originally Posted by jepmus

This sort of thing has happened many times over the years, but it is so frustrating.

And it will continue to happen. It is the nature of progress and the march of technology. Apple MacOS and Avid Protools are independent products from companies with different development timelines that are necessarily connected by compatibility dependencies, but they are not coordinated efforts. Apple continues to produce regular MacOS updates as they see fit, while Avid produces updates and tries to catch up for compatibility - and as you noticed, they will always lag behind. Compatibility testing is a long and extensive process that requires resources that are usually prioritized for software development testing.

As a rule of thumb around here, always keep a copy of previous software installers in the event a new release experiences issues or "unacceptable" functionality for your workflow. This allows you to revert to a previous version as needed. It is also a good idea to hold off on MacOS updates for a period for others to report any issues with their experiences. Some may be criticisms of new feature implementation, unfixed bugs, or compatibility issues. If you follow this forum, you will definitely hear the "screams" if there are major problems. If others report good working conditions for a while, then it is probably safe to upgrade the OS. Be extra cautions on version upgrades (12.x - 13.0) but point updates (X.4 - X.5) should be relatively safe.

[Eric Lambert]

Agreed. The updates are intended to be improvements upon the previous version so growing pains aside this is ultimately a good process. I try to stay close to the current versions of things which keeps compatibility nightmares to a minimum.

[JoeTools1963]

Originally Posted by Eric Lambert

Agreed. The updates are intended to be improvements upon the previous version so growing pains aside this is ultimately a good process. I try to stay close to the current versions of things which keeps compatibility nightmares to a minimum.

I would also add. If you are in the middle of a project or series, do not risk any updates. Wait until there is a break in the action. I learned the hard way many many years ago.


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[jepmus]

Originally Posted by dominicperry

Links here


https://mrmacintosh.com/macos-ventur...ly-from-apple/


Webpage is not Apple, but the download links are Apple.


Dominic

Thanks Dominic ...

Best,

jep

[audiolex1]

Originally Posted by jepmus

Thanks Dominic ...

Best,

jep

And CLONE your working OS drive before updating. If something breaks, you can just clone it back to where you were before the update.

[Darryl Ramm]

....clone and do an incremental macOS update in that? If the concern here was to get to the same exact macOS release Avid tested on the doing a full clean install is more likely to do that. Do that on a new partition/container or drive if possible and do not risk messing with the running system.

[audiolex1]

Originally Posted by Darryl Ramm

....clone and do an incremental macOS update in that? If the concern here was to get to the same exact macOS release Avid tested on the doing a full clean install is more likely to do that. Do that on a new partition/container or drive if possible and do not risk messing with the running system.

No. Clone the working system first. Never a bad idea to have a known working backup of the OS.

If an incremental does something, clone back is easy. I mean I've done it before with SuperDuper. You can clone to a spare drive, or an image. And you can even update the image for just new changes.

I think if you have a new OS now porting is the way to go. I don't think you need to start fresh with every incremental update.
Even New OS. port it all over and reinstall what you need to reinstall.