Dverb - RTAS & TDM sound WAY different

[scottgreiner]

So, I put an RTAS Dverb across a piano track for a really long spacey note. The pitch of the reverb tail is modulating! It goes flat as it rings out. I replace the RTAS version with TDM, and it's fine.

Bug?

[dbjp]

Try it with other stuff like Sansamp as well. Again different sound.
It's been like this for years.

[Samuel Axelsson]

Hi
In a thread posted a few days ago I wrote about some plugins sounding different (better) as TDM and I got the normal reaction "yeah right".
Derb is in my opinion one of them. Sounding much cleaner in TDM mode. Never liked in LE, love it in TDM.

[MIKEROPHONICS]

Th Dverb code was improved and re written in the RTAS version - to include Lexicon style modulation - this has been posted before I think

Perhaps they should update the tdm code to be the same?

cheers

[Drew Mazurek]

1. Shame on Avid for not having a better "built in" verb for the industry standard DAW.

2. Shame on people for using it. TDM or RTAS.

[MIKEROPHONICS]

Hi Drew

Works nicely for post sometimes - dark and cheap! But have to say, tend to use only when Revibe (great workhorse) sounds a bit "posh" and need something "nasty"

cheers

ps love the Seal mixes!

[sunburst79]

The RTAS version of the Dverb plugin was updated for PT 8.0 to add a "subtle" chorus effect so that in more closely emulated the TDM version. It's mentioned in the in the "Whats New in PTLE 8.0 guide". A lot of the LE folks feel the they overshot the mark by a broad margin.

You can download the 7.3 version (which is the same as the 7.4 version).

I was never a huge fan of Dverb but IMO the recent change made it unusable and I would like to see them change it back or add a button to disable the modulation effects.

Hopefully the link will help some one.

[ZEUSS]

Originally Posted by dmazurek

1. Shame on Avid for not having a better "built in" verb for the industry standard DAW.

You would think that by now,Reverb One would be the "Stock" Verb.
come one now,who is really paying $995 for it.

Time for them to step up their game.

[Samuel Axelsson]

Originally Posted by dmazurek

1. Shame on Avid for not having a better "built in" verb for the industry standard DAW.

2. Shame on people for using it. TDM or RTAS.

At least you should respect other peoples choices.

[Dism]

Originally Posted by Samuel Axelsson

At least you should respect other peoples choices.

And then ask the average listener if they can tell the difference between a song with 15% dverb, or 15% of a $1000 reverb on an mp3 coming through $20 earbuds.