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Old 03-21-2007, 03:12 PM
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Default McDSP Classic Pack Vs. Waves Ren Maxx

Hey Guys,

Just looking for advice.
McDSP Classic Pack Vs. Waves Ren Maxx
I only can afford to buy 1 of these 2 fantastic bundles.
I've used the McDSP project Studio before and even though
those are LE versions of plug ins they still sounded great.

I've heard great things about the Ren Maxx bundle however as well.

Just wondering on what you guys think would be the best bang for my buck.

Thanks again.

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Old 03-21-2007, 03:14 PM
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Default Re: McDSP Classic Pack Vs. Waves Ren Maxx

Go for McDSP. Not only do they sound great, but the company won't screw you over.
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Old 03-21-2007, 04:09 PM
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Default Re: McDSP Classic Pack Vs. Waves Ren Maxx

McDsp
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Old 03-21-2007, 04:32 PM
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Default Re: McDSP Classic Pack Vs. Waves Ren Maxx

What about the Ren bass compressor or the vox compressors?
Are they not as good as the compressors that come with te McDSP stuff?

also, there is a auto tune like plug in that comes with the Waves stuff.

What would you recommend to fill that hole?
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Old 03-21-2007, 04:55 PM
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Default Re: McDSP Classic Pack Vs. Waves Ren Maxx

McDSP, Great sounding plugins, easy to use, and there so many way they can be used.
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Old 03-21-2007, 05:24 PM
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Default Re: McDSP Classic Pack Vs. Waves Ren Maxx

another vote for MCDSP.

Waves are good, but be prepared to pay for them for the entire time you own them. They're sticking to the WUP.

The R-compressor is good, but none of the other plugs are very good. R-verb is boring, R-EQ is bad, R-bass is useless. The others are ok, but R-vox is the same as the R-compressor only without the attack and release sliders. R-ax is pretty much the same thing as R-vox. IR-L is ok, but you have no ability to EQ the verb, so you end up having to put an EQ plug after the verb on the aux = more processing on your computer.

With that bundle, you get tune lite - not the full version. So I wouldn’t' count on it to do much. I actually hate it. I'd much rather use Antares.

I like the waves stuff, but it is so much of a hassle to deal with them. And it is so expensive to pay for a yearly service plan just in case they update their plugs. I've owned a waves bundle for 1.5 years and had to pay each year - even though they haven't updated for 2.5 years.

MCDSP is great. I've owned their plugs for 5 years and never had to pay for an update, they are an excellent company and have awesome products. filterbank comes with all kinds of eq (shelf, filter, etc...), compressorbank is great and modeled after some of the best compressors out there, I could go on and on.

long story short - don't count on waves to offer much pitch correction, go MCDSP.
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Old 03-22-2007, 02:29 AM
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Default Re: McDSP Classic Pack Vs. Waves Ren Maxx

HI

McDSP of course,

jre3132 said it all. Waves´ WUP is kick in the face of the user. Besides that they want their authorisation on a sepereate iLok from the one you already have or they can guarantee for nothing.

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Old 03-22-2007, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: McDSP Classic Pack Vs. Waves Ren Maxx

Make it another McDsp vote here. I've used both and the McDsp stuff is way better. The Revolver verb plug takes up some serious computer horsepower, but sounds great. I use the comps and eq's on almost everything and am impressed every time.

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Old 03-22-2007, 07:44 AM
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Old 03-22-2007, 08:06 AM
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Default Re: McDSP Classic Pack Vs. Waves Ren Maxx

OH YEAH...I didn't even get into the whole iLok thing with them. In addition to what you mentioned (wanting all their stuff on its own iLok), they don't allow you to transfer their auths between iloks (not even if you own both). I had one that was getting ready to bite it and wanted to transfer all the stuff to a new ilok. I owned both, I wasn't trying to transfer to another person, just from my left hand to my right hand. They told me that I could start a broken ilok report and get an RMA. Its not broken, I just want to fix a problem before it happens - I see it coming. They won't allow it. I have to treat it as its broken and go through downtime.

Also, they will not replace an auth if its stolen. I understand if I'm a dumba#% and lose it, but most companies will replace an auth if you supply a police report. Waves will not, you have to buy it all over again.

Sorry, the iLok policy overall is understandable, but Waves' policy on iLok is (just as WUP and other policies) unacceptable.

I do own some waves stuff, but am working to get rid of it. I'm fed up with them. Everyone says that their prices aren't bad if you look at how many plugs you get in the bundles. I agree initially, but if you factor in that you'll pay for WUP (12 - 15 % of the original price per year) it turns out to be the most expensive set of plugs I've ever purchased, and continues to cost me every day I own it.
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