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Old 10-23-2020, 03:58 PM
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Default Mac Pro 2013 10 or 12 Core?

Hello

About to upgrade a 4 Core Mac Pro 2013 (D300) to a faster processor and more RAM. Looking for best option. I wish to maximize performance for Plugins and Virtual instruments in Pro Tools Ultimate version 2020-09 on MAC OS Mojave. System will be upgraded to 64 GB RAM.

This is the info I have so far (not sure if it is accurate):
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Looking at this information, the 8-core appears to be the best option all around, but I have read the 10 and 12 core are better for audio. I realize these numbers alone don't tell the whole story. I am curious as to what is the real world experience out there.

Any other processors that work, and have better performance?

Anything to watch for in selecting a processor upgrade?

Thoughts?

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Old 10-23-2020, 07:29 PM
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I see there is a kits on eBay for the E5-2687 v2, which is an 8 Core 3.4 GHz. I hear these processors throttle back when they get too hot, and if true then the question becomes more complicated.
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Old 10-28-2020, 07:45 PM
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I was hoping to move on this soon. . . so would really like to hear from people that have comparisons with 8/10/12 core processors in the 2013 Mac Pros heavily loaded with native Plugins and Virtual instruments (in addition to the HDX Cards in expansion Chassis). . . I am hearing the 10-Core is best for Pro Tools and Logic, but so little info out there. . .the overhead of extra cores does really have a negative impact, and with the reduced clock speed as the cores go up does as well, so it is not apparent that more cores is better. . . hoping for some real world experiences. Thanks!
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Here is some info on the upgrade options “how to”.
https://everymac.com/systems/apple/m...processor.html
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Jfreak (mod on this forum) has built the 10 core and is very happy with it. He will probably chime in eventually. I am running the 6 core and so far I haven’t pushed it to its limits. But everyone’s needs are different. Where did you source that chart from? The numbers for 8 core seem disproportionate to the other processors.
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My understanding is that beyond six, additional cores buy you faster bounce/rendering speeds but not better real time performance which is what you need for virtual instruments.
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Old 10-29-2020, 10:45 AM
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Beyond 6 gets you more AAX Native plugin instances too. Won't comment on VIs as that's not my area of expertise (If I have any area of expertise).

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Where did you source that chart from? The numbers for 8 core seem disproportionate to the other processors.
https://share.icloud.com/photos/0nNo...Cx64_Jf7YAz5WQ

I’ll find a better way to show the above, but no time now. If that table is true, it seems the 8 core should be best, if it truly has the highest single core performance... while still having decent multithreaded performance.
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I relied on similar info when I bought my factory spec 8 core. Hard to tell whether that info was borne out in practice as it's the only trashcan I have so have no direct comparison. I think if running as many (non-VI) AAX Native plugins as possible then the 12 core is the machine for you - I premixed a show recently where the template had been setup on a 12 core and it wouldn't reliably run on my 8 core.

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I am using a 10 core in my trash can. It’s a great machine, but I feel like the question is over baking the cake a little bit. Particularly between the 10 and 12 core CPU, there is less than 2% difference in benchmarks. If delivering a project boils down to that 2%, you probably have some bigger questions to ask than what CPU is appropriate.

I would skip the 8 core entirely and just grab whatever 10 or 12 core you can find that works for the budget & availability.
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