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Re: Upgrading to HD Native from LE
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Re: Upgrading to HD Native from LE
But what about the interface? The Omni is really the only one that would be practical for my little project studio, and Sweetwater is showing that for just under $3k. So that plus the $4200 for the HD2 cards would still be quite a bit more than I had expected to spend for the HD Native card + the Omni ($5995).
Also, to upgrade my Waves Diamond Bundle and McDSP Emerald Pack from Native to TDM would be pretty darned expensive, even with Wave's current price drop…
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Re: Upgrading to HD Native from LE
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Lynx Aurora 8 used 1500.00 Rosetta 200 used 1200.00 Digi 192 I/O used 1600.00
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Re: Upgrading to HD Native from LE
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Even if I did decide to go HD2 from eBay and just get a Pro Tools HD interface, I'm pretty sure I'd still go with the Omni.
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Re: Upgrading to HD Native from LE
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HD Native Pcie, PTHD 11, PT12 Vanilla, Omni, Lynx Aurora 16, 192 I/O (16 in/8 out), 24 Fader D-Command, lots of preamps and compressors. MacPro 5.1 (12) Core (2009 MacPro 8 Core Upgraded to a 12 Core MacPro), 56 Gig Ram, SSD System & 3 - 2TB Drives, OSX 10.9.5, Windows 10 Via Bootcamp |
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Re: Upgrading to HD Native from LE
All I really need for an output is an analog stereo pair that I can plug into my Presonus Central Station, which I use to 1) select the input from either my MOTU and 003R, depending on what I'm doing at the moment; and 2) A-B between my Focal and JBL monitors. The Omni has that; the others don't seem to, although I could certainly be missing something…
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Before shelling out $5 grand for an HD native system running PT HD without TDM, I would have to kick my own azz. Why would i wanna loose the ability of hardware handling all my track counts and inserting TDM plugs. And on top of all that I could use RTAS additionally. If PT HD Native would be $2GRand, I'd get immediately. But it aint. My current HD System is 8 years old and as good as new and I would not think twice about buying a used system. You can get a core system for about 3 Grand which is less than a brand new HD Native. Between a TDM System costing $5k and an HD Native costing the same. THere is NO choice. NONE.
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Re: Upgrading to HD Native from LE
I have no doubt that this is true for a lot of people, and I think that's a totally valid viewpoint. It just happens that my own needs are not for that sort of power.
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Re: Upgrading to HD Native from LE
HD Native doesn't sound like it's what you need. It offers absolutely no processing relief unless you have outboard gear as inserts on some other preamp like the HD/192 I/O or a mixer like the Venue, Icon Etc....(hardware inserts)
HD Native is an "Advanced Music and Post-Production Core System", I think people are thinking it more than what it really is. Do you need 192 tracks and 128 bus' that have no TDM ability? It does bug me that the claim is made that it's "lowest latency and highest stability of any native system" when the latency is tied to hardware inserts and not software ones. I don't know if by classical you mean, composing or tracking. If your tracking orchestras then HD TDM is your only real AVID solution, if LE has been working why change? You'll still have to rely on your RTAS plugs. If your using a lot of VI plugs, HD Native won't do anything really. If I were you.... I would wait to see what happens with LE in November before spending anything unless you take Barry's advice and go full HD TDM. From what I've seen thusfar, new LE hardware will more than likely be getting onboard DSP for reverb and delay to help the monitoring latency issues, RTAS isn't exactly real time for some plugs... If $4000 is tough to come by, you don't want to spend it until all the cards are on the table..
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Re: Upgrading to HD Native from LE
You may be right. It would probably be wisest for me to wait for a while and see what comes down the pike and then make a decision.
Actually, what I crave more than anything else is stability. I still get the occasional "Pro Tools cannot communicate with 003" message. Not nearly as often as I used to, but it's still something that is always lurking at the back of my mind. Either HD Native or true HD would, I suspect, solve that one once and for all.
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