desperately seeking a shortcut

[Brent_Sydney]

Gotcha - soz for the obvious - just from your OP it sounded like you were copying and pasting each pan parameter individually - ie Front, front/rear, rear divergence, LFE etc and that was the problem.

[lego]

Originally Posted by viaspiaggia

a shortcut that temporarily groups my editing so I can just hold a set of keys while doing my move and everything will edit or move together.

Like GANG on VI? I'd like ;-)

[viaspiaggia]

yeah just a quick temp group via a keyboard modifier for whatever task I'm doing right now. would be so sweet.

[reichman]

My sessions are littered with little temporary groups I call "e1, e2, e3" for when I needed a quick edit group, and then "m1, m2, m3..." for exactly what viaspaggia is talking about. Short, disposable mix groups for a certain moment.

Is the feature request a pref that we can toggle that reads "Selected tracks become edit & mix group that follows globals?"

Sounds powerful but also dangerous.

[ggegan]

I use temp groups for a lot of things, including multi-track pans and also for adjusting volume automation in trim mode for a number of tracks that work together to create a whole sound, such as with background tracks. Setting up the group is very fast because there is a keyboard command for it, what is more of a hassle is deleting the group once I'm done with it.

I have tried to create a keyboard command to delete active groups using Quickies and the internal Mac keyboard commands, but neither can access the groupsmenu directly. That means you would have to rely on automated mouse clicks, which is slow and unreliable, since the side panel containing the groups menu may be open or closed depending on my window configuration.

There is an added issue that PT10.2 and 10.3 have a bug where occasionally random groups are activated automatically, so using a keyboard command risks inadvertently deleting groups you need to keep.

[viaspiaggia]

Gary and Nathaniel are describing exactly what I'm doing. Again, it works, but it's not great, and there's LOTS of clicks to get it done. Thanks to this thread I'm now at least doing this after making and using my temp group:

apple-option-3 to switch to groups keyboard focus
press the corresponding letter to deactive the group quickly
apple-option-1 back to regular keyboard focus

then after a while I'll just clean up all the temp groups at once.


BUT

what I'd love to see is a keyboard modifier (like option-shift :: it works for all other "do this command to selected tracks") that I can hold down and do my moves. select the automation in the tracks I'm editing, hold option-shift and make the move, let go, move on.

or, even better because it would apply to doing pan automation MOVES in the panning window, would be a temp GANG. just a keyboard command to temporarily group the selected tracks, then I could do whatever, then the same keyboard command again to ungroup those tracks. Basically just one moveable temp group!

digi? are you listening?

[Brent_Sydney]

post it on the voting site thingy and put a link back in this thread so we can all pile on :)

[viaspiaggia]

here's the first thing that popped up on a search of "temp group" which seems to cover what we're looking for:

http://protools.ideascale.com/a/dtd/...ng./13545-3779

go vote!

[Kris75]

I submitted this as feature request many times!

You can do this in SawStudio and it is a great time saver.

VCA is the closest I can find in PT, followed by changing the group behavior under the modify group tab.

[viaspiaggia]

fwiw I've found a slightly easier way around this.

. create your temp group to do the move
. then disable all groups to keep working
. then when you need a new group of different tracks, re-activate groups, select your new tracks, and right-click to modify your automation group
. replace track selection, GO
. disable groups

basically the same behavior but I'm reusing the same group and borrowing the global group disable to make it fast.

then at the end of editorial I have only one group to delete instead of dozens!