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Old 04-05-2009, 10:42 PM
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4GB will cover most of the sessions I care about.
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!I've been watching the RAM drive also. The speed of reads and writes CANNOT be beat. But I am looking for quiet, and if you have a mechanical drive running as a backup, then you have a bit more noise.
RAM Drive? Someone called?

RAM Drive + SSD for the parallel redundancy = nothing can touch that.

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Yes, I guess I did...

Good work on sluthing out the RAM drive possibilities. I am going to look more into it. I'm sure 4 gb would also work for me just fine.

I'm thinking that the SSDs could be a good place for VI sample storage. The access time is .1 ms as compared to a mechanical drive at 5-12 ms. Also, even the MLC SSDs would be fine here because you have very few writes, just reads. And, of course, the SSDs have no limit on reads.

Really, this is all about bigger, faster, and quieter systems. If the old standard stuff is adequate, then all is OK. But some of the new storage technologies will really help the DAW.
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Yes, I guess I did...

Good work on sluthing out the RAM drive possibilities. I am going to look more into it. I'm sure 4 gb would also work for me just fine.
Ya, 4G should be fine for most. I myself would probably need 8G or so depending on the project.

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I'm thinking that the SSDs could be a good place for VI sample storage. The access time is .1 ms as compared to a mechanical drive at 5-12 ms. Also, even the MLC SSDs would be fine here because you have very few writes, just reads. And, of course, the SSDs have no limit on reads.
SSD and RAM drives are perfect for regular VI's and sample streaming VI's. I ran many tests with Mini Grand, Boom, Xpand etc and the results were nothing but stellar. I also ran an entire PT session all in RAM. It was definitely jaw dropping.

One thing of note with Ram drives, if writes need to be performed, it's best to use Ram drives that have a regular mirrored drive running at the same time so there is no data loss.

What really astonished me though was running video all in ram with PT. Editing and playback etc was like butter.

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Really, this is all about bigger, faster, and quieter systems. If the old standard stuff is adequate, then all is OK. But some of the new storage technologies will really help the DAW.
I'm giving the SSD technology another 12 months or so then jumping in. SSD's and Ram Drive technology are a great match for audio and video work.

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Ya, 4G should be fine for most. I myself would probably need 8G or so depending on the project.

SSD and RAM drives are perfect for regular VI's and sample streaming VI's. I ran many tests with Mini Grand, Boom, Xpand etc and the results were nothing but stellar. I also ran an entire PT session all in RAM. It was definitely jaw dropping.

One thing of note with Ram drives, if writes need to be performed, it's best to use Ram drives that have a regular mirrored drive running at the same time so there is no data loss.

What really astonished me though was running video all in ram with PT. Editing and playback etc was like butter.

I'm giving the SSD technology another 12 months or so then jumping in. SSD's and Ram Drive technology are a great match for audio and video work.

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damn good work on that project Shane!!! there will be community light bulb that's gonna turn on real soon!! it really is an amazin' way to approach audio and video work!!
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For the worlds fastest SSD's I usually monitor the stats on storagesearch.

Interesting, as far as a SATA SSD goes, the fastest to date is a hybrid of RAM and flash by DTS having a 250MB/s read and 240MB/s write(Still over $1000 though). It was only a few months ago that Solidata International had the fastest SSD's. The competition is speeding things up and slamming prices down.

It's also interesting to note that the DTS Platinum HDD 2009 hybrid works like the current Ram Disk technology by SuperSpeed SuperVolume inwhich the writes performed to it's hybrid RAM get mirrored on the SSD flash. My original plan was to use SuperVolume for a Ram Disk with a fast SSD for the mirrored writes. It looks like SSD makers are starting to see the advantage of this. The only future downfall is that SATA has a speed limit. The internal Ram on the MB will always be faster.

For the bleeding edge geeks out there, check this out.

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For the bleeding edge geeks out there, check this out.

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ok...now...it's time to step away from the lab for a bit!! take a lunch break!!!
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ok...now...it's time to step away from the lab for a bit!! take a lunch break!!!
But it's only 2G per second. Just a wee bit slow I'd say.

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But it's only 2G per second. Just a wee bit slow I'd say.

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yep. still can't mess with the QPI thru-put...12gb
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