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Old 06-20-2019, 09:00 AM
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Default Re: ProTools price adjustments from July 1st.

I've been with Pro Tools since V5. That's says something in itself.


However, I've been losing my patience with Avid, even before the latest pricing debacle. V5 was rock solid as were the versions thereafter.


However, from maybe 9 or 10 onwards it became a daily crash fest. Nothing really improved until possibly the most recent verison 2019.5 which seems a move towards the stability of Digidesign of old.



Crashing is the worst. Much of the code is clearly ancient and core parts a creaking at the seams such as Elastic Audio. Avid lost the mantra of stability that Digesign flew for so long.



Anyhow, price wise it makes no sense any more. $99 a year felt like too much but $199 is absurd


I might see what happens with another hard earned $99 before the end or I might just put it towards Logic Pro X



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Old 06-20-2019, 09:15 AM
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Farewell Avid...

......Your plan is to force them into subscription.........
No, no, no no! That's how rich this whole thing is. The folks getting the shaft are the ones already paying the equivalent to the subscription fees already. The ones who are avoiding the fees altogether are left alone. That's right. The very customer sector they want to eliminate are the ones who could care less if a program they do not participate in gets hiked. The ones who are not realizing their perpetual benefits are already playing along are the ones getting it broke off in their back-sides.

Yes - If Avid gets their wish, Avid gains nothing at all. NOTHING. Unless, of course, the number of long term customers with perpetual licenses that decided to pay this new premium is greater than the number who get fed up and either jump ship or change their systems to perpetual.

They will lose some customers for even more bad will.
They will cause some customers not affected to become less trusting. (who gets targeted next? Better prepare.)
The also eliminate the only vanilla group with something to lose by jumping ship that is still paying an ongoing fee. The perpetual license is an up-front investment that vanilla subscribers do not have. It is a bigger emotional or theoretical tie than the simple $100 expense from this hike.

Avid themselves do not even WANT to end up with anyone paying this hike.

I'm incredulous. There might be some sort of benefit in some fairy-tale land of unicorns and sheet-cakes, but there is no financial reward. The fairy-tale land of unicorns and sheet-cakes might be what they are able to report quarterly. I'm just grasping at straws here. Why else does one trash their best and most loyal Vanilla customers?

It's absurd. I don't think that's what the board meant when they said to "make Logic irrelevant".
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:19 AM
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I've been with Pro Tools since V5. That's says something in itself.

Avid lost the mantra of stability that Digesign flew for so long

V7.3 here and I would have to imagine that some of that stability was tied into Mac being a simpler OSX Kernel back then, and now it is trying to be to many things when we just want a machine to run PT with
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Old 06-20-2019, 09:25 AM
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Doesn’t Studio One come with Melodyne Essential? A $99 value


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Old 06-20-2019, 09:38 AM
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No, no, no no! That's how rich this whole thing is. The folks getting the shaft are the ones already paying the equivalent to the subscription fees already. The ones who are avoiding the fees altogether are left alone. That's right. The very customer sector they want to eliminate are the ones who could care less if a program they do not participate in gets hiked. The ones who are not realizing their perpetual benefits are already playing along are the ones getting it broke off in their back-sides.



Yes - If Avid gets their wish, Avid gains nothing at all. NOTHING. Unless, of course, the number of long term customers with perpetual licenses that decided to pay this new premium is greater than the number who get fed up and either jump ship or change their systems to perpetual.



They will lose some customers for even more bad will.

They will cause some customers not affected to become less trusting. (who gets targeted next? Better prepare.)

The also eliminate the only vanilla group with something to lose by jumping ship that is still paying an ongoing fee. The perpetual license is an up-front investment that vanilla subscribers do not have. It is a bigger emotional or theoretical tie than the simple $100 expense from this hike.



Avid themselves do not even WANT to end up with anyone paying this hike.



I'm incredulous. There might be some sort of benefit in some fairy-tale land of unicorns and sheet-cakes, but there is no financial reward. The fairy-tale land of unicorns and sheet-cakes might be what they are able to report quarterly. I'm just grasping at straws here. Why else does one trash their best and most loyal Vanilla customers?



It's absurd. I don't think that's what the board meant when they said to "make Logic irrelevant".


I was good with the $99 renewals. That’s cheaper than what Netflix is now. If they went up $20 or $30 that wouldn’t be bad but a $100!!! Increase. Nah just Nah.

After August 2020 I’m done renewing.

I really should of kept my $99 plus tax I paid to beat the increase.


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Old 06-20-2019, 09:56 AM
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Default ProTools price adjustments from July 1st.

You know what ?
Avid does not care what we think! They laugh while reading us, proud of their stupidity!
They are so certain of their fact that we can only wish them a good bankruptcy! One last renewal the time of the transition on another daw and bye, ciao, hasta nunca baby! I wont be back!


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Old 06-20-2019, 10:28 AM
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Happily using Cubase Pro 10 and freezing Pro Tools at this version.
Works for me. I'll save 100 bucks a year.
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Old 06-20-2019, 10:43 AM
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I noticed now that I have upgraded my Education eligibility, that I can purchase a renewal now on my Avid My Products page for $99 and extend my Sept. 17, 2019 1 year for $99.

QUESTION. So if I wait until July 1 the price will double to $199? Should I renew now to save $100? Do I have this right AVID?
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Old 06-20-2019, 11:31 AM
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I'm really appreciating how active Avid staff are on the boards to explain their new policies. It's like they lobbed the grenade and legged it.
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Old 06-20-2019, 11:37 AM
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I'm really appreciating how active Avid staff are on the boards to explain their new policies. It's like they lobbed the grenade and legged it.
I wouldn't want their job right now and the mod's probably don't know any more than we do.
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