PT11 - UAD2 problems

[jfplumb]

After updating to PT11, I am having serious CPU issues when using most of the UAD2 omni suite. CPU overload doesn't seem to make sense considering all the DSP is on my two UAD2 quad Satellites??? Has anyone else had these issues with PT11 and UAD2 Plugs? I have seen the AVID set up guidelines and have my machine configured as required.

Any help would be much appreciated. My workflow is being seriously compromised.
If this is the wrong forum, I apologize. I don't post very often but am at a total loss.

MAC OS 10.8.5
Pro Tools 11.1.2
Harware is NATIVE HD Card, HD MADI > SSL MADI AX.
Other specs below:

Model Name: Mac Pro
Model Identifier: MacPro4,1
Processor Name: Quad-Core Intel Xeon
Processor Speed: 2.66 GHz
Number of Processors: 2
Total Number of Cores: 8
L2 Cache (per Core): 256 KB
L3 Cache (per Processor): 8 MB
Memory: 32 GB
Processor Interconnect Speed: 6.4 GT/s
Boot ROM Version: MP41.0081.B07
SMC Version (system): 1.39f5
SMC Version (processor tray): 1.39f5

UAD Software

UAD Software Release Version: 7.4.1
UAD GUI Library Version: 7.4.1 12-05-2013 11:59
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UAD-2 Engine Version: 7.04.666
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UAD Hardware

Number of Devices: 2
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Device # : 1
Device Type: UAD-2 Satellite Quad
Hardware ID: 838af-30c9f-bb013-d168e
Serial number:
UAD-2 driver version: 7.04.666
DSP Bootloader version: 3.04.005
DSP Framework version: 3.06.41448
FPGA version: 0.13.44053
Microprocessor version: 0.18.004 AT
Authorization date code: 10-17-2012
Authorization supports up to version: 0.0

Device # : 2
Device Type: UAD-2 Satellite Quad
Hardware ID: 358aa-20404-338d7-d683e
Serial number:
UAD-2 driver version: 7.04.666
DSP Bootloader version: 3.04.005
DSP Framework version: 3.06.41448
FPGA version: 0.13.44053
Microprocessor version: 0.18.004 AT
Authorization date code: 10-17-2012
Authorization supports up to version: 0.0

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Host System Info

OS Version: Mac OS X
CPU: 2659 MHz (x16)
RAM: 2047 MB
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[Drew Mazurek]

Keep in mind the UA release is a beta and has many bugs.

I use PCI cards and don't have the issue you mention.

[Touchwood Studios]

My Satellite's are useless in PT HD 11 only my Octo card works - it could be a combination of the 2 together but yes beta has issues

[sw rec]

Make sure to let Universal Audio know about this!

[WinTaper]

I have a UAD2 Quad. So far no major problems with PT11 - other than the latency of UAD plugins using AAX/PT11 is about 5 times the latency of the same session opened in PT10/RTAS (at the same playback buffer). Not a problem for me since I never track with UAD plugs...
-dan

[Drew Mazurek]

Originally Posted by WinTaper

I have a UAD2 Quad. So far no major problems with PT11 - other than the latency of UAD plugins using AAX/PT11 is about 5 times the latency of the same session opened in PT10/RTAS (at the same playback buffer). Not a problem for me since I never track with UAD plugs...
-dan

If UA could code their plugs to switch buffers, that would be amazing!! Lots of work though that I doubt they'll do.

[YYR123]

Nice info Dan, hopefully they won't cause a big problem I haven't seen the live button so I will have to look

(Newcomer to the UAD format)

Thanks again

[WinTaper]

It is the little microphone on the lower left of the plugin window. When clicked it turns red. Sometimes for drum sessions, I will cheat a bit and use the EMT140 plate reverb in "live" mode while tracking.
-dan

[YYR123]

Is there a way to optimize the card so that the UAD plugs cause less latency?

Shouldn't Pro tools delay compensate everything ? I think I might be getting some shift due to this issue

[Drew Mazurek]

Avid threw UA a curveball with their new dual buffers in PT11. Great for regular native plugs, but BAD for UA.

Currently, for whatever reason, UA's plugs use Avid's fixed plugin buffer which is 1024 or 2048 depending on sample rate. There's also the issue of delay getting stacked that didn't happen in 10.

UA needs to figure this all out and have said that they are looking into it.

If they can make their plugs switch between Avid's input buffer on armed tracks and the plugin buffer for everything else, this combined with UA's "Live Mode" and we could be in business. Until then, this is it.

UA's plugs in PT have always been pretty much "mix only" due to the latency of the cards/boxes.