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Re: Record Offset for 3rd Party Hardware? WTF!!
Recording with delay comp on with plugins and VI's will cause the new audio to be further delayed.
Right now neither is a proper option when you introduce plugins and VI's. Carl What's up Avid - set me straight on this. Carl
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Re: Record Offset for 3rd Party Hardware? WTF!!
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I'm still toying with non-HD setups in preparation for the future when my vintage HD setup will no longer be supported. Currently, my HD system puts my overdubs where they belong, as long as I have the "compensate for input & output delays" options ticked in the I/O setup. I'm using a Lynx Aurora16 with their LT-HD card, which has the same latency as a Digidesign 192. Are you saying that these check boxes don't exist in non-HD Protools? That would suck, to say the least. I will check my Protools 10 HD software running in native mode today when I get to the studio... |
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Re: Record Offset for 3rd Party Hardware? WTF!!
I use an M Audiophile 192 PCI slaved to an Apogee Mini Me via SPDIF and I don't have any problems at all. I did have problems with plug in latency but the recent ADC fixed that. I agree though that they should have it and it should be automatic like Nuendo. I like how Nuendo figures out the round trip which is way more honest
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Re: Record Offset for 3rd Party Hardware? WTF!!
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I've seen many a poster with Windows systems proclaim that I must be seeing things, User Error, and claim that i'm pulling a chicken little. LMFAO! ok...yeah..sure...Then maybe it's OS specific? Anyone else with an OSx setup and only HDNative and/or HDX care to chime in. Regular PT10 users are also welcomed..if you have a legacy product/converter..I don't think the issue applies to you as far as i've seen from other posters chiming in. BTW to the rest of the non-believers.. is it not odd to all of you that no official word has come down to calm this thread down by totally refuting and shutting off my so called rhetoric and unnecessary ranting? I would absolutely love to be wrong here..I'm begging to be...seriously. I'd rather it be pilot error...honestly. Dennis |
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Re: Record Offset for 3rd Party Hardware? WTF!!
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Re: Record Offset for 3rd Party Hardware? WTF!!
People are confused because we've gone off the original topic into testing HD with Avid hardware.
I don't think anyone is trying to throw this off. C
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PT 2021.10 HDX 16x24 -Mac Pro 12 Cores 48 GB RAM OS 10.13.6 - API 16 channel - AMS Neve 16 channel, AMS-Neve-SSL -Pres/Processing, Bock Audio, BLUE Bottle, Neumann, Josephson -Mics, Bogner, Kemper- Guitar, Chandler Zener-Curve Bender Outboard/Master. UAudio, Waves, Plugin Alliance etc. |
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Re: Record Offset for 3rd Party Hardware? WTF!!
Which is why I asked if the original posters were on HD or non HD...
Dennis, did you have the "compensate for I/O delay" checkboxes checked in the I/O Setup page? This is important. And for the record, running my HD software in non HD (core audio) removes these checkboxes from the I/O Setup page It's been said by DigiTech Support that the core audio device is supposed report this latency/delay and compensation is automatic, but I have my doubts... |
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The OP's initial post was while testing with third party devices, but he has now acquired HDX cards and a late model Avid interface, and is dissatisfied with the apparent dysfunctional performance of the PT10HD and HDX delay compensation. My presumption is all this is pertinent to PT10HD, either running with HDX, an Avid Native card, or PT10HD with a third party interface. |
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Re: Record Offset for 3rd Party Hardware? WTF!!
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The delay is not enough to drive me nuts but the fact is I don't think those checkboxes are working correctly. The other point is that since it works with delay comp on (until you add plugs that delay) it should work with it off. The test is easy and two of us have gotten the same results. Avid has said nothing which bothers Dennis more than it does me but I am irritated by the lack of a reply. C
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Re: Record Offset for 3rd Party Hardware? WTF!!
Based on the information from DTS in another related thread stating that core audio devices report their latency to the Protools engine, I did some tests. Using an audio blip on one track, fed to an output and physically looped back to another input, and recorded on an adjacent track; I discovered that none of my available core audio interfaces work properly (actually it's Protools that isn't functioning properly!). The Mac's internal "sound card", Protools placed the recorded results 32 samples late, and with an M-Audio USB interface, 66 samples late. Ticking the "minimize latency" checkbox changed these numbers slightly, but the result never lined up with the original blip.
Glad I kept my "vintage" HD rig. Quote:
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