Click/tracks suddenly out of tempo?..

[J.Andreas]

Hi,
I've recorded a song for hours. Suddenly, the click and tracks don't allign, and I've been pulling my hair trying to figure out what the problem is.. Midi tracks seem to follow the click, but the audio tracks I've recorded to the click are suddenly all way off.. Even when I go back to backups the same problem appears.

Does anyone have a clue why this happened and what I can do to fix it? I've upgraded to Mojave and 2019.5 recently and I never had this happen before..

[JFreak]

Hi, welcome to the community

Click is based on bars/beats and audio is just samples. All the "tick" based tracks (MIDI) follow click by their nature but manipulating tempo on sample-based audio is another trick. Take a look at the Reference Guide. It is a lengthy one but has a good index.

[J.Andreas]

Originally Posted by JFreak

Hi, welcome to the community

Click is based on bars/beats and audio is just samples. All the "tick" based tracks (MIDI) follow click by their nature but manipulating tempo on sample-based audio is another trick. Take a look at the Reference Guide. It is a lengthy one but has a good index.

Thanks for the answer. I understand that midi follows the click regardless of tempo when tick based and audio does not. I've read through the reference guide, but I still can't figure out how to get it synced again. I don't get why something (everything) recorded in 138 BPM in this case, suddenly doesn't follow the click at the same BPM. I haven't changed anything afaik. Just suddenly when I pressed play everything was bananas.

Forgive me if I'm slow, but is there any setting I'm missing?

[JFreak]

You have probably tried Elastic Audio

[Ben Jenssen]

Are the audio tracks late, early, slower, faster, have they changed pitch? Details, please.

[Rich Breen]

I wonder if perhaps you either enabled or disabled the tempo ruler: check the little conductor icon in the midi controls in the transport bar.

[midnightrambler]

Or have the audio tracks slid out of place? Have you tried “spot” to see if the original time stamp matches up to its current position? Apologies if this is barking up the wrong tree, not many details to go on.

[J.Andreas]

Originally Posted by JFreak

You have probably tried Elastic Audio

No tracks are elastic audio enabled either unfortunately.. thanks for the tip anyway!

Originally Posted by Ben Jenssen

Are the audio tracks late, early, slower, faster, have they changed pitch? Details, please.

The audio tracks are the same pitch, same tempo but are late. Even the first part of the song where the clips are recorded from the very start, the wave forms are late. In other words, if I chop all audio up and move them manually a bit earlier they sync up.

Originally Posted by Rich Breen

I wonder if perhaps you either enabled or disabled the tempo ruler: check the little conductor icon in the midi controls in the transport bar.

Tried it both enabled and disabled, the problem persists. Thanks anyway for the contribution!

Originally Posted by midnightrambler

Or have the audio tracks slid out of place? Have you tried “spot” to see if the original time stamp matches up to its current position? Apologies if this is barking up the wrong tree, not many details to go on.

The tracks are at the same time stamp as original. It seems like the bars/beats have moved somehow..

[JFreak]

Originally Posted by J.Andreas

It seems like the bars/beats have moved somehow..

Well then move it back! You can manipulate song start position

[J.Andreas]

Originally Posted by JFreak

Well then move it back! You can manipulate song start position

Aahhh I'm an idiot... Thank you!! Didn't realise you could do that. That did the trick. Again, thanks for the quick help, much appreciated!