PT 10 Compatibility downgrade....

[earshatter]

Has anyone else experienced the feeling that Digi (Avid) is still digging for more money?! Before crossgrading to PT10, I had PT 8.0.6. It worked fine, no problems. I could mix and have all my automation parameters at hand. I own DV Toolkit 2. I upgraded to 10 and now have absolutely NO control over automation other than volume, and THAT is even challenging. My workflow has slowed to half because I have to manually write everything including pans, and forget about eq or plugin automation.

So, I've decided to downgrade back to 8 so I can finish my 2 projects properly (without spending $1000 to get what I had, which I will have to do at some point). Has ANYONE had to do this, and if you have, does it screw up the licensing to reinstall 10 again?

Thanks
R

[TOM@METRO]

I have PT 8, 9, and 10 all running on separate drives with no issue.

I haven't experienced any downgrade in automation performance in PT10. Could you elaborate please?

[earshatter]

Originally Posted by TOM@METRO

I have PT 8, 9, and 10 all running on separate drives with no issue.

I haven't experienced any downgrade in automation performance in PT10. Could you elaborate please?

Hey Tom, thanks. It's performance perse, it's the "unlocking" or rather "re-unlocking" of the "automation package"; something you didn't have to buy before. For example, when writing pan/volume automation withing a region, I can't simply highlight it, call up the fader, make my adjustments, and write the automation. When you upgrade, you have to have purchased the Complete Construction Kit. I just don't have an extra $1000 right now.

[TOM@METRO]

Oh, I see. Then it's the loss of the DV Toolkit features that is plaguing you.

As PT8 is not ilok based, there will not be a practical issue as long as you run it on AVID hardware. As far as the technical question of absolute legal licensing, AVID needs top step in here. As this is an upgrade, there may be a question.

[nst7]

For what it's worth, the upgrade from DV Toolkit to Complete Toolkit is $799, not $1000.

[earshatter]

Originally Posted by nst7

For what it's worth, the upgrade from DV Toolkit to Complete Toolkit is $799, not $1000.

Thanks, looked at the price. Same same but different.

[earshatter]

Originally Posted by TOM@METRO

Oh, I see. Then it's the loss of the DV Toolkit features that is plaguing you.

As PT8 is not ilok based, there will not be a practical issue as long as you run it on AVID hardware. As far as the technical question of absolute legal licensing, AVID needs top step in here. As this is an upgrade, there may be a question.

So, you are able to run multiple rigs on your setup. You must have external drives with a bootable system on each? I tried to install PT8 underneath the PT10 Avid, both running off of the Mbox2. It just crashed a bunch of times. Now I'm uninstalling both and reinstalling 10 to save my sessions as a compatible format, then uninstalling 10 and reinstalling 8. OK, this seems really awkward to me....is there a better way to do this?

...and yes, it's the locked out features of the DVToolkit that is making my life nasty right now.

[albee1952]

Many of us have multiple system drives and swap them out at will(using tool-less SATA drive cages makes this easy and fast on a PC). My other word of advice is a bit late, but I never make a system change when I have unfinished projects, unless I have a backup plan(drive imaging rocks).

[TOM@METRO]

Originally Posted by earshatter

So, you are able to run multiple rigs on your setup. You must have external drives with a bootable system on each? I tried to install PT8 underneath the PT10 Avid, both running off of the Mbox2. It just crashed a bunch of times. Now I'm uninstalling both and reinstalling 10 to save my sessions as a compatible format, then uninstalling 10 and reinstalling 8. OK, this seems really awkward to me....is there a better way to do this?

...and yes, it's the locked out features of the DVToolkit that is making my life nasty right now.

Actually I have five spinning internals and one SSD. And yes, each PT version is on a separate drive. Each one is imaged on external drives using Acronis True Image..

[earshatter]

Originally Posted by albee1952

Many of us have multiple system drives and swap them out at will(using tool-less SATA drive cages makes this easy and fast on a PC). My other word of advice is a bit late, but I never make a system change when I have unfinished projects, unless I have a backup plan(drive imaging rocks).

Yeah, I know. It's too late. I was no problem, but for some reason I can't "Save Copy As" because of some stupid error. Probably a line count thing....grrrrrrrrr.