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Re: Where is ProTools heading?
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But still... love PT10.
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I would say the Metric Halo boxes have minimal DSP. You can do quite a bit with it. Especially with a +DSP license (which doesn't add more power, just more plug-ins). You can do some pretty heavy lifting IMO. Anywho back to the topic.
I also agree. I was surely hoping for an 004 with built-in DSP when they announced the end of the 003s. Then they released omni and I thought it was killer until I realized its I/O limitations. Then I found MH and haven't looked back. At this point I don't know where it would fit in their product line-up, but a 32 channel box. Configurable with different I/O cards ala apogee symphony, with a thunderbolt and/or FireWire connectors, and some built in DSP would make me consider selling my MH boxes. Anything short of that and I'm not even considering it.
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I can record on a beach, but I don't need a new laptop to do it. Hell, you could track with a tablet. You could spend less than $500 on something for tracking on the beach, $1500 for mixing at home, and still have close to $1000 left over after what you pay for a Retina Macbook, and you could do it all with an 003 or an MBox.
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And therein lies the rub with laptops - even though you CAN record just about anywheres with one you still need external boxes - mic pres, an interface, at least an external drive, and associated power supplies (unless everything is bus powered and then your battery life goes in the toilet).
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First off, to make quality recordings EVERY computer based system needs external boxes, preamps, multiple hard drives, monitors, etc...
As far as comparing the capability of a modern laptop with a desktop the differences are not that big and getting smaller every day. To slag a machine as non-upgradeable is not on point because in most of its configurations (rMBP) it is also a completely capable system for small to medium recording setups (64 track or less) that performs as well or better than stock a 2010 stock MP. Of course everyone needs a comprehensive backup system so that is not its flaw. And expandability is through TB and usb3 now. Just another evolution and I for one am happy about it! Cost... Lets say $3000 for a well set up rMBP. MAybe one can save a whole $1K or $1.5K building, hacking, whatever. Considering the price of mics/preamps/monitor speakers/instruments/acoustic treatment etc... chicken feed! My first protools 24 system used a Mac 9600 in 1998 -- $5K+ for the machine and 9.1G SCSI hard drives were $900 each. Todays computer equipment is cheap!!!!! I enjoy updating and replacing mine every 3 years. And by buying higher end Mac products I even get 25% to 50% back on the resale end (try that with your hack 3 years from now!). So... back to the topic, where are we headed... Towers in 5 years will ONLY be for very high end very specific users. Even today I think 95% of the people who buy them are nuts. A MAc mini will be 90% of what any tower can do (and a refresh is coming). For the very high end video or large scale music production sure... but most recording people, no. AVID HD|N, TB box, OMNI and HD interfaces are all great stuff. My only objection is that for the sound quality they give there are sonically comparable and far cheaper real alternatives. That said nothing replaces the simplicity of just running pro tools without some separate console program for monitoring recording tracks. A slightly redesigned OMNI along the lines of Apollo priced at $4K would totally put AVID in the drivers seat again for project type studios. But sadly I think AVID is more headed towards supporting the very high end HDX crowd and charging big $$ for PT software.
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Wow...
I started this thread some time ago and just WOW! It's like an emotional roller coaster up in this biotch! Lol... Anyways, regardless of where you stand with your current gear or what your views are on the future products and applications. Isn't it interesting and amazing that processing power that only existed in million dollar studios is now accessible to anyone with even a moderately new laptop? Mind you, I still firmly believe that the 'magic' can't happen without talent, great engineers, producers, rooms, gear etc, etc...But still, with a current laptop and PTHD setup, you can score/mix/master a symphony from a laptop...insane! I am going to make the jump someday to HD Native or HDX setup...but until then, I'll let my MacPro do the DSP until it shoots smoke out its ears like a Bugs Bunny cartoon. And as I can’t take advantage of 64bit cause I’m MacPro 1,1…I assume it won’t be long
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I received my rMBP about 3 weeks ago and have'nt looked back.My HD3 rig is now retired and I am trying to sell the cards.This laptop takes sessions that would choke the HD3 and doesn't bat an eye.I understand that its not for everyone but for my workflow its the best.....
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