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Old 12-05-2017, 08:22 AM
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As a mix engineer I get stuff sent over at 44, 48 and 96 (sometimes within the same album project!)(never had 88 or 192) and I have to say the last thing I need to worry about is the sample rate.....YMMV.
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Old 12-05-2017, 11:18 AM
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Ok, Clausiii, you were right, I opened Pandora's box . I am a little, little bit more clever than before.

If I only make songs, then I take 44.1/24 ? But if I want to make a video to the song? What if the song is only in 44.1/24 ? Will I kick myself, cause I didn't take 96/24 ?

I know, if the song was great, cool, professional, no one cares for the sample rate. But the sample rate stands on the beginning of the journey. That's the big ****. It's not really difficult to click 44 or 48 or 96. But if I click it, I want to be sure to have done the right click.

All in all the result of this thread is for me: 44.1/24 is enough. I am doing no Jazz and no classics. And if my song would be great, professional like David Guettas songs or Robby Williams songs, no one will say: "You dumb, you did it only with 44.1/24, that's great bull ****". Am I right?
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Old 12-05-2017, 11:30 AM
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And if my song would be great, professional like David Guettas songs or Robby Williams songs, no one will say: "You dumb, you did it only with 44.1/24, that's great bull ****". Am I right?
If you produce great songs, people will say......good for you, and pay you money!

And they won't give a rats rear end about the sample rate.....so focus on creation first.
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Old 12-05-2017, 11:58 AM
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If the end product is going to be 44.1 then is there any wisdom in working to 88.2kHz rather than 96kHz?


None whatsoever.

There's a persistent myth that you get a better sample rate conversion, if for example you go from 88.2 kHz to 44.1 kHz, because it's exactly half, so there is no remainder.

If the conversion was being calculated by a 5 year old child, then there may be some sense in using "easier maths", but computers are a little more sophisticated.

You can have total confidence converting between any of the established, fixed sample rates (up, or down) because the conversion is done by massively up-sampling the source audio file, to a sample rate that has a common integer with the destination rate.

Then the sample rate can simply be converted, without any remainders.


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Old 12-05-2017, 12:15 PM
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If I only make songs, then I take 44.1/24 ? But if I want to make a video to the song? What if the song is only in 44.1/24 ? Will I kick myself, cause I didn't take 96/24 ?




No.

48 kHz and video / film is fundamentally only important in terms of recording sync sound.

That is primarily, shooting dialogue scenes.

Sound effects, and music, could potentially be at any of the established sample rates, for a variety of reasons.

See my previous post, as to why converting sample rates is not a problem.

There are, however, workflow reasons why you might not want to have to import files of different sample rates - but those are reasons of practicality / convenience, and not reasons of sound quality.



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Most sessions come here at 48/24, and leave the same way.
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Old 12-05-2017, 10:42 PM
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Unless it's for video, and so 'needs' to be at 48k, I do everything at 96k
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:31 AM
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Don't forget that for some workflows, a 96k sample rate will halve the latency that your artists hear in the cans vs 48k. I do it for that reason alone (I also think I hear a difference in quality between 96k and 48k, but it's barely perceptible).
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Old 12-06-2017, 12:46 AM
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24Bit 96k, for three reasons.

Firstly, this gives a satisfactory latency on HD Native, lot closer to my old HD3

Secondly, it gives me a better Vari-Speed having more Khz to play with, so I can Vari down on the fly one semi-tone, then sing all the BV's with more comfort, and still be recording at 80'ish Khz

Thirdly, it sound great!
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I also think I hear a difference in quality between 96k and 48k, but it's barely perceptible

If you record an acoustic guitar or a piano, you will hear a difference.
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