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Old 02-25-2007, 03:44 PM
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Default new time shift plugin by digidesign

just used the new time shift plugin by digidesign for the first time

I had to "shift" a whole 115bpm session up to 125bpm and what I got after shifting the the tempo up to 125 was just crazy! at the first 10 bars of the song everything was ok but then it started to get weird - some of the tracks got faster than others...

I tried the same thing with a smaller tempo change (another song) from 76 to 78 - the same thing happened but this time only one track (shaker) was slowly getting out of time in the middle of the song

very strange..! I did this with pitch`n time a lot and never had problems

anyone elso having problems with the new plugin?
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Old 02-26-2007, 04:39 AM
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Default Re: new time shift plugin by digidesign

I was testing all the pitch plugs out there a few months ago. Waves Timeshifter and Pitch N Time are the best IMO - I have em both cuz certain things are done better with the waves plug and other things with the serato.

Digidesign's time shift had some weird side fx like sluggish timing after applying etc... So I didnt get that one. So my answer would have to be YES to what you asked
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Old 02-28-2007, 09:05 AM
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Default Re: new time shift plugin by digidesign

anyone else?
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Old 02-28-2007, 09:27 AM
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Default Re: new time shift plugin by digidesign

I've found X-form the best on mixes or Melodyne for single instruments. P&T was pretty good but it's been beaten in recent months.
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Old 02-28-2007, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: new time shift plugin by digidesign

X-Form saved my *ss a couple of weeks ago in a big way. I've used P&T and Speed with good results but X-Form seems to have them both beaten IMHO.
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Old 02-28-2007, 11:47 AM
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Default Re: new time shift plugin by digidesign

I was hopeful when Time Shift was introduced, but it produced weird artifacts, particular on bass. It is also a pain to have to switch among the 12-different Time Shift algorithms depending on what type of track you are modifying, particularly when using in TC/E. That motivated me to purchase Pitch'n'Time and I have been very happy with it thus far. I have not tried X-form or Speed, both of which appear to be highly regarded.
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Old 02-28-2007, 04:53 PM
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Default Re: new time shift plugin by digidesign

I have had some good luck with Time Shift
a) .1% down Nagra audio with film to HD 23.976 finish
b) some Foley recoding that was done at half speed by accident

good results for the price (free ninety free)
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Old 02-28-2007, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: new time shift plugin by digidesign

I've been spoiled by Waves SoundShifter, but I think that Time Shift has far too many artifacts. I have not tried X-Form though.

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Old 03-01-2007, 12:47 AM
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Default Re: new time shift plugin by digidesign

I find x-form to be great for pitch shifting vocals because of the formant control. I still prefer pitch & time for any time stretching though.
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Old 03-01-2007, 06:02 AM
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Default Re: new time shift plugin by digidesign

Reposting myself from last October:

I tested all I have with mono dialog and modest time change. Here's my subjective results:

1. Digi X-form
-almost as good as the original

2. Digi TCE
-same basic quality than X-form. Not a very big difference.

3. Serato Pitch' n' Time
-much worse that previous. Distant, thin and phasey.

4. Speed
-Even thinner than Pitch'n'Time. Bad and compeletely unnatural.

5. Waves SoundShifter
-Ouch. This makes mono dialogue sound like there's several voices. Nice special effect maybe?

That said, on some other (stereo this time) material, X-form didn't sound good at all!
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