Update 8.03 causes problems running win7

[fridrikur]

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

Did you install the proper FW410 driver? Or should I say - which version of the FW410 driver did you have installed?

I installed the offical driver 5.10.0.5058

[Wavelabs]

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

Use a SoundFont converter. I honestly don't think there are enough people using SF2 to warrant us taking the time to implement it.

There are millions of people that use SF2 files.
and its just that since the Protools program does not support it
does not mean its not popular.

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

What do you think could be better about it?

This one is very hard to explain over text.
Just the work flow of it need work.
One of the problems is when I trim a note, it does not trim it correctly, even
when having the timing correct.

I have beats quantized to its proper timing, (hence I am a drummer)
and when I know the timing is correct, when I play it back
its off beat. and no matter how much I try to fix it in the midi editor.
when playing back the track, its off beat.

Also those bubble line notes is irritating when your trying to fix notes.
please refer to Reason sequencer for further details on proper midi editor.

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

Can you be more specific? What are you trying to do, exactly? Something like change the tempo on the fly like you do with Ableton Live?

Yes something like Abelton.

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

What are you trying to do that requires this, exactly? I ask because I want to be sure you're understanding why we do it the way we do and because you're talking about it in reference to MIDI - which has NO stereo/mono component. It's just data.

I know MIDI DATA has no outputs , but the channel does.
Im talking about the audio channel and the midi channel outputs.
I want to be able to switch from either mono to stereo or stereo to mono.
by right clicking the meter outputs of either the mixer or the meters
in the sequencer and do the change I need.

Ok, lets say I have a stereo track with a VST in it that is also stereo
but later on the or days into the mix, I decide to use another VSTi
but the VSTi I want to use is mono. When I open a VSTi into a track to use,
I notice that the damn thing is only outputs to mono.
And since that track is already in stereo already, I want to be able
to just right click the meters in the track on the left sequence window and select [Convert Track Mono] on the fly.
and it would convert the input and output of that channel to mono from stereo.
instead of me having to delete the track and open a new one for mono.
when there is data information inside the track already.


This would be one way for the solution:

Originally Posted by YoRugMan

I think he's refering to tracks as they're displayed in the mixer, not the edit view.
If I recall correctly from a previous thread of his, he wants the stereo/mono switch button on all channels in the mixer, so he can change the final sound output.
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Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

5. - Cannot change output of channels in the fly from Mono to Stereo and back.
Why would you want to do that, exactly?

Read The Above Answer.

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

6. - MP3 Meta Data does not memorize within Protools & can not export or import file
for future use as well as portability.

What would you need this feature for, exactly?

So if I need to go back and do another MP3 export,
instead of me having to type the information all over again.
All I have to do is either click the drop down menu, and find
the correct mate data info for that MP3 data info.
or type in the first two letters and the list conforms to what data
has already been imput from previous export sessions of MP3 files Bouncing
or other bounces I have done previously.

If you still don't understand what I am trying to explain,
please refer to Steinberg Wavelabs Program and Meta Data inputs fr exporting a file.

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

7. - Copying and pasting does not copy the exact position of the region
to the pasted region within the time frame in the grid.

Yes, it does. Use Ticks mode, and read the manual, specifically the section on Quantize to Grid. You may also want to read up on 'sample rounding' so you understand completely why the 'problem' you're describing happens.

No it does not, because I have tried hundreds of times.
I will try to explain over text, which is a little hard for this particular problem.

Lets say you have a four bar sequence, and the sequence is within that four bars starts on the ( &) after the one and ends on the 4 1/2 bar before the 5th bar.
you would have a little space in the front and in the back.
and where that sequence is positions is exactly how you want to continue it.
by Copying and pasting that sequence or by Repeating it with [CNTRL+R]

it does not fall into place when its repeated or copied.
It just puts it right next to it and not where it belongs like the previous region or midi sequence.

PS> I went to a music store and explained this to a store staff that is
a Protools seller, and even he told me he could not believe it could NOT be done.
and he tried with 2 other guys in the store in the Protools station.
They even tried it with a One Bar sequence, and still no go.

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

It was never meant to do this.

It should be, sometimes I want to do fast triggers on a sound,
and I don't want to spend hours doing it in Audio edits in the sequencer.

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

See the previous post on BX Solo.

I am confused by this answer.

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

'Fuss with it' - how exactly? I can precisely position notes every time. How are you working that you cannot position them properly - give me a specific example....

I explained this to the Music Store Protools guy, and he even tells me it needs work.
This is a little hard to explain.

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

Everyone has differing opinions about who has the best algorithm for time stretch/compression. Many think X-Form is pretty darned good but, as they say - to each their own.

I always have to import the accappella into MixMiester, change the tempo to the tempo I want the accappella to be,
then Export it from MixMiester and import it into ProTools.

Protools should be able to do that, and I should not have to rely on MixMiester to do it properly.

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

Again, a matter of how you work. Pro Tools defaults to having any patches saved to a general location available to all users all the time.
If you prefer you can save your patches to any location you wish.

There should be an option to save to both locations.
A. - The general Protools Location
and
B. - Inside the Protools Session Project Folder

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt

13. - Importing audio loops does not conforms to the tempo of the project on the fly.
Sure they can - again, it's covered in the manual.

I imported audio loops that are 100-BPM, into a song that is 130-BPM
and NO it does not conform to the song at all.
And yes I read the manual, for some odd reason it does not it.
its always off beat.
And the loops came from a Professional Audio Loops CD.


Also, I also find it some what difficult to find the mouse courser
I would have to shake and shake the mouse to find the courser.
I don't know if this is a PT glitch or what, but the courser needs to be more visual
to be easier to find.



Lets not forget, the need of 64-bit of Protools.
It would let me use all of my 16-gig DDR memory instead of just 3.5-gigs of it.

[YoRugMan]

Originally Posted by Wavelabs

It should be, sometimes I want to do fast triggers on a sound,
and I don't want to spend hours doing it in Audio edits in the sequencer.

You're really wanting an apple to be an orange.

It shouldn't, because Boom is a drum instrument - not a drum sampler.


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[Wavelabs]

Originally Posted by YoRugMan

Boom is a drum instrument - not a drum sampler.
.

And there lies my point..!!

[YoRugMan]

Originally Posted by Wavelabs

And there lies my point..!!

LOL -

but, as an extension on the first part of my previous post, it's like going to a fruit&veg store to buy a bag of apples - then 3 days later, going back to the store and saying "Hey! There really should be an orange in here!"

Digi supplied a Drum Instrument with PT - not a Drum Sampler.
Beyond that, anyone who wants a drum sampler, should go out and buy one!


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[Wavelabs]

Ok, I saw your "Queen" and I trump it with an "Ace"

Every DAW has a Drum Sampler, because all those other companies know
that people like to use their own sounds.
and not use the "Stock" sounds of the drum machine.

You can only use stock sounds but so much.

It could not hurt for Digidesign to implement a Sampler with Multi Layering
in Protools as a Free AIR Unit as part of Protools package.

And since we are on the subject for Drum Sampler.

Why not also make a AIR Sampler.
Something along the lines of NNXT of Reason.
Where people can put one sound or Multi Layer Sounds.
With Multiple Audio outputs and each channel would be assignable to a track.

And people would have total control over the Keyspanning and Root note assignment,
and many other features of the sample unit.


The "AIR Sampler"



And I know what you're thinking..!! - Why not use Reason through rewire, right.?
Well because people don't want to open two separate programs for one song.
people want to do everything from (ONE) DAW. - not two.

I dumped Reason and Record because they do not support VST effects and VSTi's.
among other things, even though I love the sampler NNXT and Midi sequencer.
and the reason why im only using Protools now.
I would of used Logic, but I don't own a MAC
and MAC's are way to expensive to even get.

And in Version 4 of Reason they screwed up the way Regions work.
you now have to triple click and do other things just to record.
it was a headache just to record an idea and was changed for something more complicated.
people where complaining about it and complaining about it.
And I could not take it any more.
So since they screwed up, I moved on.......

And here I am using Protools.
Plus Protools sound engine is 100x better than Reason or Record.
On top of that, I purchased Nexus Synth and all their expansions.
Im broke as hell now because of it., but I have great sounds.
and I could not use my Nexus with Reason or Record.
Along with my Predator, Blue and Zeta3 synths.

As a customer, I weigh in the Pro's and the Con's of each DAW and made my choice.
and Propellerheads lost. - Even though I was a hardcore Reason and Record User and
Even though, Propellerheads has the best Midi Sequencer work flow ever. (imho.)
I steal sounds from it, sample it and import it to Protools.
but so far as of now, I use Protools as my main DAW now.
but who knows, that could change......
It would depend on digidesigns improvements...

I would have tried Digital Performer, too bad its only MAC. and not PC compatible.
If it where PC compatible, we'll you know....
lol


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[Dan-Jay]

Would be cool if PT had a drum sampler, but my drum sampler is FL Studio, the best one out there :)

[Wavelabs]

NNXT Sampler i found to be the best, I have not tried FL Sampler yet

[YoRugMan]

Well, you've pretty much summed it up.

The short version of my story is basically - was getting ready to become a Sonar user because I didn't think Pro Tools was affordable - then read about M-Powered, and how it fully supported my Delta 2496 card.

I was as happy as Britney Spears when she discovered the microphone wasn't on during her turn at a karaoke contest.

Not long into it, I too discovered that Boom was merely an instrument, and thought, hmmm, would like to import own sounds too....
So I bought Battery.

That's pretty much it.

When it comes to finances, that combination has cost me far less than buying any other DAW with it's own drum sampler....


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[DigiTechSupt]

Originally Posted by Wavelabs

There are millions of people that use SF2 files.
and its just that since the Protools program does not support it
does not mean its not popular.

I've been a Pro Tools user since SoundDesigner and working here for over 7 years. I have seen very, very few requests for SF2 support. If it was something our user base really wanted, you'd think it would have showed up on Ideascale by now:

http://protools.ideascale.com/

My statement is based on the fact that I simply have not seen it as even a blip in the feature request database.

This one is very hard to explain over text.
Just the work flow of it need work.
One of the problems is when I trim a note, it does not trim it correctly, even
when having the timing correct.

I have beats quantized to its proper timing, (hence I am a drummer)
and when I know the timing is correct, when I play it back
its off beat. and no matter how much I try to fix it in the midi editor.
when playing back the track, its off beat.

Also those bubble line notes is irritating when your trying to fix notes.
please refer to Reason sequencer for further details on proper midi editor.

Why don't you use a free screen capture app like Jing to give us a visual of exactly what you're doing and what's wrong, as I can't really piece it together from your description.

Yes something like Abelton.

Ableton is a specialized app - some apps do things better than others. Certainly if Pro Tools was as much a performance app as Live, I could see where a feature like that would be a 'must have'. Why don't you hop over to Ideascale and submit is as a feature request - if customers really want it, it will get voted up.

I know MIDI DATA has no outputs , but the channel does.
Im talking about the audio channel and the midi channel outputs.
I want to be able to switch from either mono to stereo or stereo to mono.
by right clicking the meter outputs of either the mixer or the meters
in the sequencer and do the change I need.

Ok, lets say I have a stereo track with a VST in it that is also stereo
but later on the or days into the mix, I decide to use another VSTi
but the VSTi I want to use is mono. When I open a VSTi into a track to use,
I notice that the damn thing is only outputs to mono.
And since that track is already in stereo already, I want to be able
to just right click the meters in the track on the left sequence window and select [Convert Track Mono] on the fly.
and it would convert the input and output of that channel to mono from stereo.
instead of me having to delete the track and open a new one for mono.
when there is data information inside the track already.

I don't see where this would be that much more helpful. In either case, you're still having to instanciate a new plug-in. Does it take longer to:

A) Create a new track and instanciate the plug-in, then select and move your MIDI data to the new track or
B) Uninstanciate the unwanted plug-in, convert the track (the feature you're asking for), instanciate the new plug-in.

I'm not seeing that there would be substantial time saved using your requested method. What might I be missing here?

So if I need to go back and do another MP3 export,
instead of me having to type the information all over again.

This sounds like another idea to put up on Ideascale.

Do a large number of users actually import MP3's into Pro Tools, then export again as MP3? I'm guessing not, as the resulting audio would likely be rather iffy sound-quality wise. I could see using this for roughs but, in that case, why would MP3 meta data be so important, as it's likely not going to be something you'd put out in public?

Lets say you have a four bar sequence, and the sequence is within that four bars starts on the ( &) after the one and ends on the 4 1/2 bar before the 5th bar.
you would have a little space in the front and in the back.
and where that sequence is positions is exactly how you want to continue it.
by Copying and pasting that sequence or by Repeating it with [CNTRL+R]

it does not fall into place when its repeated or copied.
It just puts it right next to it and not where it belongs like the previous region or midi sequence.

PS> I went to a music store and explained this to a store staff that is
a Protools seller, and even he told me he could not believe it could NOT be done.
and he tried with 2 other guys in the store in the Protools station.
They even tried it with a One Bar sequence, and still no go.

This seems like another one to give us a visual using Jing, as I can't determine what you're trying to do. My 4 bar region with the first MIDI note on the 'and' of 1 and the last on the 'ah' of 4 will repeat exactly every 4 bars.

I am confused by this answer.

Now that I understand what you're trying to do, per the info above on switching VI's from stereo to mono, I can see why. My explanation/workaround is for those who want to check mixes in mono.

I explained this to the Music Store Protools guy, and he even tells me it needs work.
This is a little hard to explain.

Well, since I don't know who Music Store Pro Tools guy is or their expertise with Pro Tools (often lacking music store personnel), I would request, again, that a movie or further explanation of what you're trying to do so we know exactly what's going on.

I always have to import the accappella into MixMiester, change the tempo to the tempo I want the accappella to be,
then Export it from MixMiester and import it into ProTools.

Protools should be able to do that, and I should not have to rely on MixMiester to do it properly.

Pro Tools can do that. What are you doing in Pro Tools (exact steps, please) that's not producing the results you're looking for?

There should be an option to save to both locations.
A. - The general Protools Location
and
B. - Inside the Protools Session Project Folder

You can - you just have to do it twice. I don't know of any app that saves it to both locations simultaneously.

I imported audio loops that are 100-BPM, into a song that is 130-BPM
and NO it does not conform to the song at all.
And yes I read the manual, for some odd reason it does not it.
its always off beat.
And the loops came from a Professional Audio Loops CD.

One more for Jing - I need to be able to see what you're doing. Either that or give me the exact steps and upload the audio file you're using, so I can reproduce what you're doing here.

Also, I also find it some what difficult to find the mouse courser
I would have to shake and shake the mouse to find the courser.
I don't know if this is a PT glitch or what, but the courser needs to be more visual
to be easier to find.

This might be another one for Ideascale. I can't say that I've seen many (any?) requests for this previously.