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Re: So, no renewal. We stay at 2020.
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We as users like to support the developers who create those cool apps, where it gets complicated is when bean counters and management enter the scene and hurting the product, plus alienate the customer base with questionable pricing decisions. For example, charging for additional voices just feels "nickel-and-diming" and I wonder if the financial situation at Avid is that bad that they need that extra bucks. But, in the end, I'm sure we all don't want to see Avid go belly-up and being sold to Gibson.
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Re: So, no renewal. We stay at 2020.
If the "industry standard" is so erratic that it can't even be counted on to operate properly, maybe the time to move on was long ago. What else can you say about a "professional" product that you need to upgrade just to be sure you have a working version? That is not acceptable in my opinion.
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Re: So, no renewal. We stay at 2020.
Out of curiosity, has anyone tried Reaper? Is it even comparable to Pro Tools?
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Changing DAWs is really a long adventure, at least for me. I learned about PT and I have been familiar with Cubase for 3 or 4 years, but always with the regret of not having kept only one DAW. But it was impossible for me. I need my Melodyne and therefore to browse freely thanks to ARA. I need, in MIDI, expression maps. I need the macros. I need multiple marker tracks, and higher, visually richer tracks. I need auto solo on selected track I need my Softube Console 1 and Console fader. PT is not far away, Avid could develop that, but it's silence. I bought and tried Reaper for 1 month, really trying to see its qualities. There are many and we discover extraordinary elements. But I got discouraged. The door is so open that you lose your orientation, I think. It's like we have to redo a DAW for ourselves. I do not have time. I tried Studio One, but I hate the interface. It's silly, but it bothers me, especially the mixer. I feel like I'm in a game. And there's not enough contrast between the different elements (the menu and the edit space, things like that). It is not for me, despite the qualities we are talking about. If I'm 8 hours a day in front of a Daw ... I bought and used Samplitude for 3 months. There, too, there are some incredible elements. First, monitoring, unbeatable. I also find that the audio processing is better, the VST prints are superior, and especially that the audio recordings are superior. I don't know why and I don't want to start a war over it. But, anyway, Samplitude is filled with bugs and inconsistencies, it's an endless maze of detours and subcategories, with unclear functions and functional quirks that put me off. So Cubase won. The biggest lack of Cubase is the gain clip. It's hard to live without a gain clip! I don't understand Steinberg to ignore this. Also some stupidities in the interface, like elevators as thin as a pin. But hey, we adapt, because Cubase offers a lot, with relatively few bugs. I honestly find that its monitoring (without being Samplitude) is superior to PT, at least to PT Vanilla. It is also more robust in resource management. Still, PT has considerable advantages. Even on the MIDI side, where its reputation is bad, it is very good, especially in real time and in terms of tempo and measures. I really like. But overall, he does not offer enough and has sat down on his position. I would have liked so much ....
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Re: So, no renewal. We stay at 2020.
that would mean ... if, for whatever reason, I no longer pay or can no longer pay for the insurance, I will no longer be able to drive my car in the future, unless I pay the full purchase price again
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Re: So, no renewal. We stay at 2020.
JFreak, if you were to bet on one or two next PT releases in 2021, what could you expect?
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Sadly, my expectations regarding new features are pretty low because this Apple Silicon transition is so huge and ties lot of resources. Would like to be surprised though, will see about that later. Point being my best guess is Avid is putting most resources to get Apple Silicon supported before end of Q2. Avid's problem here is Apple Silicon hardware is moving target. Yes there are first models for sale, but those are not yet pro hardware. Nobody knows when Apple releases next Apple Silicon hardware, or if those are worthy of professional use. That's why I am thinking target for Apple Siiicon support is second release of 2021 in Q2. Just an educated guess though. I have absolultely no inside information about this.
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Re: So, no renewal. We stay at 2020.
"So, no renewal. We stay at 2020."
Agreed. http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=411357 Avid better show some ❤️ to customers like us or else wave goodbye to a whole load more $$$. Stephen
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