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Old 02-10-2009, 11:33 PM
yyyesbaby yyyesbaby is offline
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Default Re: Pro Tools 8 LE multiple problems

Hi Tom & Bill,

THANK YOU for your replies.

I hope I'm responding properly (by replying to BOTH of you in the same message). Please let me know if I should follow some other protocol.

Before I respond I forgot to mention in the starting message post... when I was using 7.4 I had to reboot maybe 2-4 times per month. Since committing to PT 8.0 it's about 6-12 times per session.

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Have you updated all of your plugins for PT8?
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In December (when I originally got PT8) and then again today.

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Have you removed those that can't be updated?
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No. BEFORE I updated to PT8 I got ahold of Line6 (for PodFarm & GearBox), IK MultiMedia (for ARC) & DigiDesign (for Strike). All manufacturers assured me they were compatible with PT8.

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Do you think you could generate a plugin list?
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Generate? How do you "generate" a list? If you mean MANUALLY type a list of ALL plug-ins then... uhhhh... how about this (NOTE: all items taken from Pro Tools LE 7.4 and/or 8.0 "bundled packages" EXCEPT for IK MultiMedia, Line6 & Strike):

Bomb Factory (4ea items)
DigiDesign (59ea items INCLUDING Strike)
IK MultiMedia (1ea item)
Line6 (2ea items)
Trillium Lane Labs (4ea items)

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Even if you are not instantiating outdated plugins, just having them active in the plugins folder can cause big problems.
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I didn't know that. OK, I just uninstalled Reason Adapted 4, Torq and 2ea Izotope plug-ins.

NOTE: Since the Bomb Factory and Trillium stuff isn't listed in Windows "Add/Remove Programs" I don't know how to uninstall them (as of yet I have not used them).

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Also which Firewire controller are you using for your 003?
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I don't remember the model number but... it is a card I purchased per the spec listed on the DigiDesign web site last January 2008 (when I had the PC built). The card contains the TI chip.

FYI, although I run with the TI card, the 003 also works the same with the motherboard's firewire.

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Do you have your 003 connected to the FW port driven by the Avlab Technology TSB43AB23 chip?
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Yes (it shows up on the SANDRA report)

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Have you tried faster/different RAM?
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No.

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DDR2-800 is fairly slow for that motherboard.
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Slow? Did I screw up somethng? Are my 800s causing these problems?

At the time of my build (January 2008) FASTER chips were available. As I revisit my build spec emails to the local PC shop, this is what I found...

"
---->ItemNo:A4300563--CORSAIR TWIN2X2048-8500C5D 2048MB XMS2-8 Qty: 2
Holy $#!%... a $290 increase to the bottom line?... AND that's after taking the mouse and keyboard off?... AND I don't get to "use" the 4th gb?!!! haHahaHaha... forget that! Use the 800s.
"

I had to chuckle when I saw "that" quote (what a cheapskate I am).

Looks like there's a promo ($78 for 4gb AFTER rebate) on these Corsairs until Feb 15th. What do you think? Will it be a PROBLEM SOLVER?

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Updated two plug-ins (not availible when I got PT8) and removed others (as mentioned above) I started work on a session and here is the result:
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PROBLEM: #11
Playback Engine settings were set at
H/W Buffer = 1024
RTAS Processors = 3
CPU Usage Limit = 95%
RTAS Engine = unchecked
Disk Buffer Size = Level 2
Cache Size = Normal

Playback stops (not quite completing the 2nd pass on a LARGE loop)

ERROR MESSAGE:
The operating system held off interupts for too long. If this occurs often, try increasing the "HW Buffer Size" in the Playback Engine Dialog box -9094.
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Playback Engine settings were set at
H/W Buffer = 1024
RTAS Processors = 4
CPU Usage Limit = 85%
RTAS Engine = unchecked
Disk Buffer Size = Level 2
Cache Size = Normal

Hmmmmm... strange... I expected an error to pop up a lot quicker after INCREASING Processors and DECREASING Usage Limit. Instead I completed 7 passes on the LARGE loop WITHOUT getting an error (finally had to stop to move on to the next song part).

Played around with a SMALL loop for about an hour without incident.

Increased my selection loop to include BOTH previous selections and started to play along. COULD NOT COMPLETE the first pass. Same error. I'm noticing (when it does occur) it's in the same area of the song (right after a big crash crescendo/break). FYI, my Strike cymbals are set to medium (playback quality).

ERROR MESSAGE:
The operating system held off interupts for too long. If this occurs often, try increasing the "HW Buffer Size" in the Playback Engine Dialog box -9094.

Another thing I noticed is I DID NOT have to REBOOT the PC during my 2.5hr session (which was nice for a change). Still haven't added any sugar to any of the waveform tracks though.

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BTW, since I am on the front end of this digital audio experience AND out of curiosity... GIVEN... a quad core, 4gb ram and a dedicated 7200rpm audio recording drive AND... IF everything WAS working just fine... what do YOU GUYS think I should "reasonably expect" for an average "active" TRACK and PLUG-IN count?

Well I'm hungry... time for some chow.

THANX AGAIN for your time... Frankie J (^_^)
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