[K Roche]

Originally Posted by off the wall

Both of those are not currently in stock, so I wouldn't assume they are going to get any if Avid has removed them from their site.

You are correct I did not notice that they were out of stock, it does say "coming soon" . If your friend needs one right away have them call Wind Over the Earth in Longmont Colorado. They usually have a fair bit of Avid inventory so they might have them .

http://www.windovertheearth.com/contact.html