[controlfader]

well, apologies, but when someone directly contradicts some data I have posted and then I find out that they have not even looked at the app size, nor have the capability to do so . . . . and are actually quoting numbers for something completely different (ie an installer, rather than an app).

full dmg/zip installers are always bigger as they are geared toward including every possible option that the various customers might want to install. a final installed app is nearly always smaller, unless they have used massive data-compression on the installer. my numbers are for a standard mac HD install.