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Old 07-03-2011, 03:39 AM
nean nean is offline
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Default Re: OSX 10.7 Lion + PT9

Quote:
Originally Posted by kazuomik View Post
Even though Pro Tools.app cannot be launched from Dock or Finder,
we can still execute Pro Tools binary directly from Terminal.app, typing ike:
cd '/Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools.app/Contents/MacOS'; ./'Pro Tools'

But there may be other trouble.
For my case, Play immediately stopped.
After executing Repair Disk Permission from Disk Utility.app,
the permission of /Library/Audio/MIDI Devices was fixed,
and it started to play again.
It seems fine so far on Lion GM Seed as on DP4.

whats your output of "uname -a" and "otool -L" for Pt app ?

as you can see ProTools is still using Carbon Framework, and i'm wondering how you got a working carbon framework under 10.7 gm?


Code:
# otool -L /Applications/Digidesign/Pro\ Tools/Pro\ Tools.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro\ Tools
/Applications/Digidesign/Pro Tools/Pro Tools.app/Contents/MacOS/Pro Tools:
	/Users/tom/Projects/Develop/MDK/source/Integrations/ProToolsForWorkgroup/Release/libProToolsInterplayOption.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0)
	@executable_path/../Frameworks/CFnd.framework/Versions/A/CFnd (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.0.0)
	/System/Library/Frameworks/Carbon.framework/Versions/A/Carbon (compatibility version 2.0.0, current version 136.0.0)
	/System/Library/Frameworks/IOKit.framework/Versions/A/IOKit (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 275.0.0)
	/System/Library/Frameworks/Security.framework/Versions/A/Security (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 36371.0.0)
	/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 111.1.4)
	/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreMIDI.framework/Versions/A/CoreMIDI (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 49.0.0)
	@executable_path/../Frameworks/Pro Tools.framework/Versions/A/Pro Tools (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.0.0)
	@executable_path/../Frameworks/DFW.framework/Versions/A/DFW (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.0.0)
	@executable_path/../Frameworks/DigiPlatformSupport.framework/Versions/A/DigiPlatformSupport (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.0.0)
	@executable_path/../Frameworks/DSI.framework/Versions/A/DSI (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.0.0)
	@executable_path/../Frameworks/FFmt.framework/Versions/A/FFmt (compatibility version 9.0.0, current version 9.0.0)
	/usr/lib/libstdc++.6.dylib (compatibility version 7.0.0, current version 7.4.0)
	/usr/lib/libgcc_s.1.dylib (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 1.0.0)
	/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreServices.framework/Versions/A/CoreServices (compatibility version 1.0.0, current version 32.0.0)
	/System/Library/Frameworks/CoreFoundation.framework/Versions/A/CoreFoundation (compatibility version 150.0.0, current version 476.18.0)

at this point my assumption would be, that avid needs (or already has for a brand new version) to recode a lot of legacy (carbon) crap to be compatible with lion.

so, that means there is either a brand new ProTools version waiting or, it is that much work to be 10.7 compatible that an update can not be expected within next year (earliest) ?!?

At this time still no comment from avid, please avid -> don't pray openness ?!


developing Pro Tools: as everyone may know avid lost a lot of Pro Tools core developers in the past years and since pt8 avid is doing a lot of outsourcing to the east like ukraine, czech, etc,... that was also a reason why the last update for 10.6 took that long, beside that there were problems in communication and source versioning, new avid bureaucratic guidelines to force mates not to be efficient as they like, etc... ( stuff that happen on almost every transition,... ) the only thing which kept almost the same was just the (lets say flagship/trademark) name "ProTools",...
there may be benefits having a new team and at this time avid can show the world that everything is on track and there's a brand new version of protools x with a lot of new features (which are still missing at 9) ready for 10.7 ?!


for everyone who is doing daily business with protools, of course -> please keep at your stable supported release, no one is forcing you to update or change anything!
this topic is just for developers which are testing, and playing around with lion and of course will like to know what is all about the avids' promises,...


cheers,
(avid mole)
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