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Bob Olhsson
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08-10-2017, 08:12 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
There is a native version of the code but it is not addressing the GUI which would only require a driver.
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08-09-2017, 01:51 PM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
My understanding is that HUI addresses the GUI while Pro Control and Control 24 addressed the machine coded DAE engine that ran on the TDM card's 56k chips. This is like asking for the latest Mac...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
07-17-2017, 09:01 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
My understanding from the early ads for them was that these controllers directly addressed the low level audio engine assembler code rather than connecting through the GUI. If that's true, there's a...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
05-19-2017, 07:01 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
Eucon works with every DAW that chooses to support it so it would be silly to restrict it to HD when it already works with CueBase.
I remember being told at a demonstration that the reason Pro...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
10-25-2015, 10:15 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
More specifically, just the two interfaces from 1998 and 2001 that were tied to DAE which is not part of Pro Tools 11. I don't know any original purchasers who still use these control surfaces.
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
12-14-2014, 09:11 PM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
My "inside" source was at Opcode but I was a member of the Stanford Music Special Interest Group and we had a number of meetings where digidesign engineers explained some of the internal workings.
...
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12-14-2014, 10:44 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
There was nothing typical about how Pro Tools IV interacted with the OS and GUI when Pro Control was released in 1998. Everything about Pro Tools back then was a serious low-level hack into the Mac...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
12-14-2014, 08:29 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
The fact that the C24 physically looks similar and uses an Ethernet connection doesn't mean it hooks into Pro Tools in exactly the same manner. That's quite a leap.
I also don't buy the idea Avid...
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12-13-2014, 10:04 PM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
Moving a fader changes the gain so it has to talk to the audio engine somehow!
Certainly by way of the GUI would be one easy way but my memory is that back when that stuff was released it had...
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12-13-2014, 06:59 PM
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Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
ProTools 11 uses their first completely new audio engine since the '90s because Apple and mickeysoft are both pushing everything to 64 bit memory addressing. They also chose to update to a dual...
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12-13-2014, 10:28 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
Avid claims a lot more than just a driver is required under the hood for Control 24 and Pro Control to work properly with Pro Tools 11 which was undoubtedly written for optimal performance using...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
10-19-2014, 12:06 PM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
How exactly can Pro Control even work with Pro Tools 10 running on a 64 bit operating system without a 64 bit driver?
This is why I question the idea that we are only talking about needing a...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
12-15-2013, 10:55 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
I think they did take that lesson from Harrison by introducing the Icon which makes that level of ongoing support financially feasible. Pro Control was priced a heck of a lot lower than a Harrison!
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
11-12-2013, 06:50 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
People keep repeating this misinformation that it's "just recompiling a driver." Pro Tools 10 could not work with it on any 64 bit OS if there was not already a 64 bit driver.
Avid certainly...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
09-26-2013, 12:36 PM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
People have always complained endlessly about Digidesign and Waves. Unfortunately legitimate issues frequently get lost in all of the noise.
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
09-22-2013, 10:57 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
Of course there is a driver or it wouldn't work with PT 10 on a 64 bit OS!
The issue is the profile and whatever code that profile might talk to in PT 11's code. That could be a lot more...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
09-18-2013, 01:35 PM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
And they claim that they haven't intentionally crippled it!
I'm just far more inclined to believe the people who actually know what's under the hood than the endless conspiracy theories about...
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09-18-2013, 04:55 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
They've been extremely clear that they support all products for five years after they are discontinued and they do not intentionally cripple them in software after that.
I've never heard of any...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
09-16-2013, 09:17 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
MIDI is for wimps...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
09-14-2013, 09:06 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
People on the DUC need to get out more!
http://solid-state-logic.com/music/soundscape/
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
09-14-2013, 07:32 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
Music recording studios are broke and Avid is often competing with used consoles as studios go out of business.
Targeting post production where cable TV is driving a massive amount of expansion...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
09-08-2013, 09:30 AM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
I'm sure you can fool PT into thinking anything but that doesn't mean it will automagically work right.
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
09-07-2013, 03:43 PM
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
It might have been Pro Control specific code that was tuned to the Pro Control faders and was enabled when a Pro Control was detected by the system. Remember we are talking about an accessory for Pro...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
09-07-2013, 01:16 PM
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2,211
Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
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Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 and ProControl with Pro Tools 11?
I'm sure it would be easy to write a driver that makes the Pro Control work exactly like a HUI. I just suspect there's code contributing to its superior performance baked into old Pro Tools versions...
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ProControl, Control|24, Command|8
08-17-2013, 11:43 AM
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Posted By
Bob Olhsson
Re: Control|24 with Pro Tools 11?
I have little doubt this was probably the very assumption that brought Avid down financially. Both they and we are now being forced to rethink everything. At least they created a bridge in PT 10....
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