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Futurist 04-17-2007 04:09 PM

Re: Mac Pro/HD3 boot-up problem
Those are good points. I haven't noticed it having anything to do with the button pushing duration, but I will check that out further. My boot-up issue occured at the Apple Store, and at my studio hooked up to an APC Smart-Ups 1500. Perhaps there is a bit of a surge, but I'm not so sure that's what the problem is. I tried it with 1 and 2 internal drives, and that didn't effect it. Peripherals don't effect it.
I want to know if anybody with a similar setup, has NOT had this problem.

AAR 04-17-2007 04:47 PM

Re: Mac Pro/HD3 boot-up problem
I did some reading and found that the Mac Pro, unlike the PPC G5 has dynamically allocated lanes for the PCIe bus. Which could mean one thing. At startup, the Mac Pro is probablly trying to decipher the allocation for the lanes with the Digi cards and is perhaps miscomunicating with the cards and is hanging??? May not be Mac's fault but of the cards as well..?

here's a link to what I've found:

Futurist 04-17-2007 07:19 PM

Re: Mac Pro/HD3 boot-up problem
It would be nice to see Digidesign weigh in on this!

AAR 04-18-2007 03:55 PM

Re: Mac Pro/HD3 boot-up problem
Again today my Mac Pro would not boot, black screen, no chime. Had to force it twice. This reminds me, the early PPC G5 had a cold boot problem, I wonder if this is sort of the same problem Apple used to have.

Futurist 04-18-2007 06:01 PM

Re: Mac Pro/HD3 boot-up problem
I imagine it would be worth posting this issue on an Apple forum. One small positive realization is that I probably don't need to bother having my cards swapped out, as now I know that there are at least a couple of other people with the same problem, I might just sit tight with these for now until more information comes to light. You say that G5's had a similar problem. Was that a problem with even non-Pro Tools equiped units?

Tim R. 04-18-2007 06:30 PM

Re: Mac Pro/HD3 boot-up problem
I'm SOOOO glad I'm not alone. I'm having the same problem (HD1 MacPro 2.6). I've been swapping ram etc. to no avail. I'm also experiencing problems with my monitors not refreshing on boot. The monitors often won't come on til the mac desktop is up (no apple sign at boot). Again, maybe it's a PCI power issue with the HD cards.

Let's all stay in touch on this. I'd love to get it resolved.


Futurist 04-18-2007 06:58 PM

Re: Mac Pro/HD3 boot-up problem
That is a weird one about your monitors, I have not experienced that. I am using a pair of Samsung 204B's and they come right up (or at least during a successful boot they do). What monitors are you using, and are you sure it has nothing to do with them?
It's definately not a ram issue, and I even tried taking my video card in and out in different combinations with my HD cards! I originally had a compound problem where my second internal drive (500 gig Maxtor) wasn't mounting properly and acting strange...turns out it had nothing to do with the boot problem fortunately (bad drive). I'm waiting for Seagate to send a replacement.

Tim R. 04-18-2007 08:48 PM

Re: Mac Pro/HD3 boot-up problem
My monitors are a pair of viewsonic 17" LCDs. (VG700). Sometimes when my mac doesn't boot, My primary monitor shows a greyish screen.

I'll make a call to my Digi rep to get him up to speed.


mix109 04-19-2007 03:00 AM

Re: Mac Pro/HD3 boot-up problem

Seems that my problem is something more diifferent....but i will post since it prob las to do with PCIe issues
Here is the Case
(2) Identical MacPros 2.66: 2x500WJD HD,and 2Gig additional Crucial Ram, MacOSX 10.4.8,also tried 10.4.9(Combo updater)
HD2 System with 192 and Sync I/O

When launched PT 7.3 for the fist time on the first MacPro i got a DAE ERROR -1122,could not figure out what that was and even DigiTest wont launch either.
I thought it was an issue with the HD cards,swithced the HD2 pair with the other one...and guess what...Same Error
no matter if i used one card(Core) or both of them.
The other MacPro works ok
So i am stuck with the MacPro..and i am not sure who to blame and how one can prove that to Apple that this MacPro must be
retuned and replaced...or if it is Digi;s Fault

GuyPicks 04-19-2007 08:26 AM

Re: Mac Pro/HD3 boot-up problem
Man, I can't believe I'm reading this. I haven't been able to get on the forum for awhile but I'm having the same problem with my HD3 system I got last fall.
I thought it was just the Mac. Maybe not. Otherwise I love my system too.


EDITED: just wanted to add that I have PCIe cards and sometimes when booting the fans on the computer just go wild and computer won't start. This happens about 1 out of 10 times too.
Don't know what to make of it.
If anyone finds out anything please post. I won't be able to shut down for awhile.

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