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cshaw 05-09-2019 02:03 PM

Can't control Q width on stock Avid EQs
 
Can someone explain to me how to control the Q width on the mid bands on any of the avid (and a few other manufacturers) EQs? I can't access this parameter on either the PT\Control or Artis Mix using either the EQ page or the Insert page. I can control the Low and High shelf slopes but not the mid band Qs.

We're talking about Avid's own EQs here. Seems weird that this can't be done.

I'm on EuControl 19.5 and PT|Control 19.5

BScout 05-09-2019 02:26 PM

Re: Can't control Q width on stock Avid EQs
 
Hit "SEL" next to the frequency adjust and it switches to Q

(Yes, it's a dumb way. Should be click on knob to switch to Q)

cshaw 05-09-2019 03:11 PM

Re: Can't control Q width on stock Avid EQs
 
D'oh!
Thanks for pointing that out. It's been a while since I've tried to use the Artist mix to control plug ins. Every time there's an update I check to see if it's any easier and it's alway very non-intuitive. If you open an EQ via the EQ button on the Artist Mix, the bands spill out low to high from left to right. If you open the same EQ via the insert button the bands spill out high to low from left to right.:confused:

Also, if you open an Eq via the insert button, and then click on the plugin with your mouse, the layout on the mix switches to the layout that you get with the EQ button.

It can be a bit frustrating.

BScout 05-09-2019 03:24 PM

Re: Can't control Q width on stock Avid EQs
 
I strictly do the plugins on the Dock/Control app.

On the Mix or S3 I hate the layouts but at least the Dock gives you a chance of seeing what is available without lots of paging. And now with the latest version of Eucontrol and Pro Tools, running through a bunch of plugins on different tracks doesn't seem like a chore of having to flip modes constantly. Just select tracks (from the faders on the Mix/S3) and get to work on what pops up on the Control app which also pops up on the main Edit window in Pro Tools.

Jamie Mac 05-09-2019 11:16 PM

Re: Can't control Q width on stock Avid EQs
 
What would be great is to at least give it as an option in a settings page to have clicking the knob either reset the frequency or go to Q mode.

It might be me, but I don’t see many scenario’s where you would want to reset the frequency more often than changing the Q value.

Adding that feature would make the dock usuable for EQ’ing.

BScout 05-10-2019 04:27 AM

Re: Can't control Q width on stock Avid EQs
 
In my entire life (and with everyone who has been my mentors in film mixing on 2 continents -- name all big music mixers for picture and they are on the list Grammies and Oscars) there has never been the need or request to reset a frequency band.

And I can't imagine in other disciplines this has come up (reset frequency). But easy and immediate access to the Q of a band is the norm -- hardware or software.

Massive oversight.

Mark Ziebarth 05-12-2019 01:49 AM

Re: Can't control Q width on stock Avid EQs
 
+,1 There is no real need for a reset but often the wish to control the bandwidth of an EQ band. I guess Eddie noticed our wish already. Didn‘t you, Eddie?
It would fit into my workflow and a lot of others...

Best

Mark

BScout 05-12-2019 09:57 AM

Re: Can't control Q width on stock Avid EQs
 
I just realized why they do the "Q" on the SEL working last night on the S6. It's because on it, that's how you do it but it has a "SEL" button.
And they do it on the Artist Mix that way.

But for all of them, there's no need for the reset frequency band and it should be a knob press to go to Q.


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