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Tonewrek 05-03-2011 05:33 PM

Digidesign VS AVID
 
Has anyone besides me wondered why the quality of the product (Pro Tools 9) has gotten worse since AVID took over?????? All i see on the DUC is problems!!:confused:

noah330 05-03-2011 05:55 PM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
I run PT9 and it's great. Could you be more specific?

carlone 05-03-2011 06:46 PM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
The DUC is all about problems. Users helping other users.
The vast majority of pro tools users don't have problems specific to pro tools.
IMHO

nst7 05-03-2011 07:27 PM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
And for your info, Avid actually bought Digidesign about 15 years ago. It's only recently that they rebranded the name, and got more involved in making positive changes, moving out the old guard that was stuck in their ways.

Darney 05-04-2011 02:26 AM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by nst7 (Post 1789875)
And for your info, Avid actually bought Digidesign about 15 years ago. It's only recently that they rebranded the name, and got more involved in making positive changes, moving out the old guard that was stuck in their ways.

+1

PT 9 has been pretty darn solid for me. Easy install, no issues. The new features are terrific and Tech Support has been more much more active in the forums as of late. Frankly, I'm impressed. In fact the only issues I've ever had with PT were in PT 6LE... but they were addressed fairly quickly. I even screwed up some KEXT file permissions by doing something stupid and PT didn't blink!

fakir_cz 05-04-2011 03:14 AM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonewrek (Post 1789833)
Has anyone besides me wondered why the quality of the product (Pro Tools 9) has gotten worse since AVID took over?????? All i see on the DUC is problems!!:confused:

My experience with PT 9 is actually an INCREASE in quality. Working like a charm here. I was running LE for years, but it was never as painless as PT 9.

And yes, DUC is here to solve problems, that's why most threads are about them. The majority of satisfied users simply doesn't write here, because there's no reason for it. ;)

CME 05-04-2011 03:32 AM

And I think pt9 has brought people back to pro tools and brought in people that haven't used pro tools before. So there has been an increase in trouble shooting installation problem threads. Which are usually unrelated to the software. So I'm with every one else. If anything pro tools has gotten better since avid started making changes.


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Ed Douglas 05-04-2011 03:06 PM

PT 9 & PT 9 HD have been the most reliable and nimble release for me since I started with PT 3.2.
YMMV.

L-Dogg 05-04-2011 08:49 PM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
I agree....PT9 is great and Avid has done a lot of things right lately. I am back to enjoying the process. Just having the ability to consider using interfaces that others use and rave about is great. ADC...the new Eleven Rack update. Stellar.

skyko 05-05-2011 10:01 AM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
PT9 (and AVID) is just fine.
But a lot of people that are new to PT (Avid's "native"-strategy seems to work) are just seemingly not interested in reading README-files and searching the knowledge-based to resolve simple (documented) issues.
Sounding off on forum board seems to be more attractive.

EGS 05-05-2011 10:05 AM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
Workin' pretty darn good here, too. Some bugs, but no deal breakers.

DonM 05-06-2011 04:36 AM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
I have owned PT since PT7, I have used Samplitude and Sonar as my primary tools for years. Since the release of PT9, I have moved most projects to PT.

The primary reasons for my move includes:

#1 Improved stability and universal installer
#2 ADC on non-HD systems
#3 Open Hardware
#4 Improved Compositing (still not as good as Sonar - but better than PT7)
#5 Cross OS platform

I will always still use Samplitude, and Sonar because they are great tools, as is PT. I think the Avid brand has done much to demonstrate an improved interest in Customer Satisfaction and presented a road map for studios and individuals to find the proper product for themselves in the most cost effective manner. I know some folks had negative value shifts in their PT investment during some of the changes, but I think Avid did it's best to provide the most people with the most options in upgrading and cross grading. Avid has addressed the obvious and tremendous host power available now - I think their HD strategy makes sense moving forward, not looking backward.

So my summary is Avid has made improvements in Image, Road Map, Technology, Flexibility. They could have just igonored us eh?

Best

-D

ejwells 05-06-2011 05:17 AM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonewrek (Post 1789833)
Has anyone besides me wondered why the quality of the product (Pro Tools 9) has gotten worse since AVID took over?????? All i see on the DUC is problems!!:confused:

As pointed out in an earlier post, Avid took over Digidesign 15 years ago.
If you're saying that the products have gotten worse in the last 15 years, then you're mistaken.
If you're saying the products have gotten worse since the Avid logo has been put on the products, then you're also mistaken.
M-box 3 series, Omni, 16x16 I/O, PT 9 are all superior products to the older products.

jasonthurley 05-06-2011 02:30 PM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
Im running PT 9 HD and it is AMAZING! I have not had any problems. The ONLY thing I have noticed is if I undo a recording (not using the Command Period (.) but Edit:Undo Recording) the files will skip a number (meaning instead of going from take 1 to take 2 it will skip to take 3, UNLESS I close the session and reopen it.... this does make it difficult for quick scene shooting as we use the file names to reference the different takes and sometimes I don't have time to close a session and reopen it between takes. The command period works great unless your chasing timecode as it will remove the recording and then re-lock to timecode and start a new recording immediate, but other than that it is amazing.

Shan 05-06-2011 05:09 PM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ejwells (Post 1790838)
M-box 3 series, Omni, 16x16 I/O, PT 9 are all superior products to the older products.

+1!!! Even REAPER and Reason sound pretty stellar through the HD Omni. It's one killer sounding I/O box! Far superior to the old digidesign line of I/O.

Shane

geoffvernon 05-20-2011 10:59 PM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
Yeah me too!! PT9 has been amazing to me! Now I might be on a Mac which doesn't have as much problems as windows but on both Mac and PC sides PT9 seems to be amazing for me! I haven't had ANY problems at all with PT9 that I did in 7 or 8! Just gotta know how to maintain your gear;) But I think AVID(which bought digidesign a WHILE back) is better!

chrisdee 05-20-2011 11:32 PM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonewrek (Post 1789833)
Has anyone besides me wondered why the quality of the product (Pro Tools 9) has gotten worse since AVID took over?????? All i see on the DUC is problems!!:confused:

Also my experience is quite the opposite. The quality (or I would say the features and stability) of the software itself has only gotten better for me.

Maby Windows 7 is a better platform than XP. Maby the software it self has become more stable.
Maby it's because I have choosen the right hardware. Maby it's a combination of all the three. I don't know.

Shure it crashes sometimes, but I have a self built pc based on the I7 thread, so I really cant complain because it's not officially supported hardware.

However I do wish Avid would get better at keeping officially supported hardware current.
I also would like to se they officially support a couple of self built pc's aswell.

MikeLip 05-21-2011 03:39 AM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
I think the industry is pretty impressed by Avid Audio presently. Sorry to hear you have problems.

Pro Tools 9 has been liberating here and equated to further purchases of Avid products from me. Infact I'm looking at some cheap m-audio stuff for messing around while I'm in the kitchen cooking dinner. Open Pro Tools is a winner. Props to Avid.

Mike.

Park Seward 05-21-2011 08:52 AM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Tonewrek (Post 1789833)
Has anyone besides me wondered why the quality of the product (Pro Tools 9) has gotten worse since AVID took over?????? All i see on the DUC is problems!!:confused:

I wonder when the OP thinks Avid "took over"?

The DUC is a help forum. Users post to get help with problems. I wonder what kind of posts the OP expects from a help forum?

tamasdragon 05-23-2011 09:21 AM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
Wrong assumptions made by the OP. Avid managed to make this things better. We got so many good things it's hard to make a list. :)
But as I (and many others) thought, with the hardware freedom, different problems arise, but those are not necessarily Avid related ones. Not to mention pilot error related situations. If you carefully look through the topics and the solutions, it's clear that the popularity of pt9 brought in many new pro tooler, who commit many simple errors. Not to mention the fact that this is really a user forum (we try to help each other), so the majority who just use pt daily without a hiccup, doesn't come here to make huge love fests for avid. :)

crowellzach 10-24-2011 08:50 AM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Ed Douglas (Post 1790238)
PT 9 & PT 9 HD have been the most reliable and nimble release for me since I started with PT 3.2.
YMMV.

Hey Ed Douglas, I'm trying to track you down from another older post of yours I found on here. I just got a Kensington Expert Pro mouse and in doing some research I found your older post. I was hoping to ask you some questions about your work flow with it.....would you mind shooting me your email? just send me a message on here or to my email [email protected]

Here's the thread that caught my eye...I would just reply in it, I just thought it might go unnoticed, since this thread is more current.

http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=227945



Sorry to interrupt this this thread guys!!!! No harm, no foul!! haha

BTW...I'm on PT9 and love it, have no issues at all!..I'm gonna wait a while on PT10 though

Ed Douglas 10-26-2011 03:46 PM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by crowellzach (Post 1850902)
Hey Ed Douglas, I'm trying to track you down from another older post of yours I found on here. I just got a Kensington Expert Pro mouse and in doing some research I found your older post. I was hoping to ask you some questions about your work flow with it.....would you mind shooting me your email? just send me a message on here or to my email [email protected]

Here's the thread that caught my eye...I would just reply in it, I just thought it might go unnoticed, since this thread is more current.

http://duc.avid.com/showthread.php?t=227945

OK, Just shot you an email, crowellzach.

TREXROCK 10-27-2011 05:33 AM

Re: Digidesign VS AVID
 
They just need to qualify PT9 on Lion and were all good. Fix the MIDI!!!


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