Low Latency Monitoring and Hardware Inserts
 

I'm having some strange behaviour with hardware inserts and LLM.
If I have a track sending to the LLM nominated outs (1-2 in this case), and I use a hardware insert, the track no longer passes through my 1-2 master track plugins (L2007 in this case), if I make the harware insert inactive, the track is now effected by the master track plugins. (The mentioned track is not in record either).

I checked the manual, but couldn't find this specific situation noted.

Can anyone else recreate this?

:confused:

Re: Low Latency Monitoring and Hardware Inserts
 

LLM disables plugins. This is normal behavior AFAIK

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Only if you're in record. This is disabling the master section when not in record.

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No-one? Avid?
I'm actally finding LLM so hard to work with, its almost useless.
I turned it on in an old session the other day, and it muted the bass. It wasn't a well played bass, but it should be my call to mute it, not the programs.
Restart tha Mac, and it came good again.

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The bass playing or the audio? :p

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That gave me a good laugh. :D

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Nice :D

I wonder how an artist would feel if you said.."That take was so bad I need to reboot."

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Bump...Still wondering about this one.

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One of my Colleagues just experienced this same error on a PT 8 LE with 002 rig.

Toggling LLM off seems to have solved it, but yes, with a couple of Hardware inserts, the audio was not passing to the Bounce...

Additionally, RTAS plug-ins placed AFTER the Hardware Insert were not having any audible effect...

No Tracks Record Enabled.

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LLM will disable inserts AND sends. If you want to record thru hardware, its best done before conversion. You CAN do it by turning LLM off and running at a low buffer, but you will suffer the latency from the extra chain of conversion(out to the hardware and back in).

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The situation I am describing happens with NO tracks in Record or Record armed.
This happens when attempting to BOUNCE TO DISK, and / or during playback, as it pertains to the RTAS following the Hardware Insert having no effect on audio....

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Like Mu-Tron says, there is some weirdness in the LLM output pair when you aren't even in record. Its very hard to predict what it will bypass, and on which tracks. I think its also effecting delay compensation on tracks not in record, (I think they do an Inactive style bypass to master channel effects without altering the delay comp, but I could be wrong on that one).
For example, I had a full mix setup >Drum Kit, Bass, 3 guitars and vocals, all assigned to 1-2 (1-2 is also my LLM output). Enable LLM and all the drums start flamming like crazy. Master fader plugs are bypassed for everything, and the mix is a general mess.
This is a session that won't run for me with less than a 256 sample buffer :confused:
Work around was to use a different output pair for the mix, and 1-2 only for the overdub.
Reference Guide gives vrey little info about such things.