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DonaldM 10-12-2019 10:54 AM

Where's Heat?
 
I'm still really confused about Heat. I'm on the annual renew plan, and have been since Avid offered it. My subscription renewal was due this week, so I renewed. iLok shows me with an ACTIVE license for Heat. But I can't find Heat anywhere. Its not in my product area on the Avid website, not available with the Avid download app or anywhere else I can find. Why would I have an active license for a product I have no way to download? :confused::confused::confused:

feliponk 10-12-2019 11:16 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Hi: please check the following.


http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/e.../Where-is-HEAT


Starting in version 11.0, Pro Tools includes HEAT as a System Plug-in (within the Pro Tools Application package) and does not require separate installation.

HEAT is activated when the HEAT iLok license is present on the same iLok as the Pro Tools HD license bundle. (See the HEAT Product Page for more info and a free trial.)

DonaldM 10-12-2019 12:29 PM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by feliponk (Post 2541073)
Hi: please check the following.


http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/e.../Where-is-HEAT


Starting in version 11.0, Pro Tools includes HEAT as a System Plug-in (within the Pro Tools Application package) and does not require separate installation.

HEAT is activated when the HEAT iLok license is present on the same iLok as the Pro Tools HD license bundle. (See the HEAT Product Page for more info and a free trial.)


Except earlier this summer Avid announced Heat is available to subscribers (or at least certain kinds of subscribers) and that HD is no longer required. I have Heat license on the same iLok as my PT subscription license. That's why I'm confused. If Heat is already installed, wouldn't the active license on my iLok activate it? But I don't see Heat anywhere, so I don't understand what's going on.

Southsidemusic 10-12-2019 12:47 PM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
HEAT is Not included in the Perpetual License (annual plan) only the subscription which stops working if you stop paying.

Second have you activated HEAT inside PT as it is at the bottom of one of the dropdowns. Cant remember now as I am not in my studio but I think it is the 3rd or 4th dropdown from left. Then you will see HEAT at far right of the mixer window and you need to choose to show Heat controls aswell.

Heat is not on any of the plugin tabs as it is gonna be on all audio tracks and from there at the top of each Audio track you can turn it on or off. So activate inside PT on the bottom of a dropdown and show heat then it should work :-)

unkJE 10-12-2019 06:49 PM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonaldM (Post 2541079)
.... I have Heat license on the same iLok as my PT subscription license....

In Pro Tools 2019.6, go to Options>Activate HEAT


If that doesn’t fix it, this worked for others:

Download and install the latest version iLok License Manager from
https://www.ilok.com/#!license-manager
Login, then right-click on your HEAT license and choose “Deactivate” (wait for the spinning ball to stop). From “Available” licenses, right-click on your HEAT license and choose “Activate”.
Once this is done, right-click on your iLok and choose “Synchronize”, before relaunching Pro Tools.

Happy HEAT!

unkJE 10-12-2019 08:59 PM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by feliponk (Post 2541073)
....HEAT is activated when the HEAT iLok license is present on the same iLok as the Pro Tools HD license bundle...

Just to clarify (please pardon the pedantry!) – “same iLok” does not apply to 2019.6 – though it does apply to all versions prior to 2019.6.
FWIW, I’m running 2019.6 (Native) with HEAT – using 2 iLoks (one iLok with PT 2019.6, the other iLok with PT12.4 HD and HEAT)

So, Avid need to update the KB article “Where is the HEAT installer?”
http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/e.../Where-is-HEAT
There is a separate KB article:
“Where Is My Avid Complete Plug-In Bundle and HEAT License?”
http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/e...e-HEAT-License

DonaldM 10-12-2019 10:06 PM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Okay. Thanks guys. I found it!! Now I just have to learn how to best use it.

unkJE 10-12-2019 10:22 PM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DonaldM (Post 2541117)
...how to best use it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson (Post 2531344)
HEAT sounds appropriately subtle when you drop the level of each track down to -20dBFS=0VU or lower with clip-gain and then mix with it on. It doesn't sound good when hitting it any higher than that or after the fact on a mix.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson (Post 2533849)
Clip-gain gives you lots more control over HEAT.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tetonica (Post 2533253)
....I love HEAT. At first I was using HEAT's tube saturation (drive turned to right / clockwise) but now I set HEAT to tape saturation (drive knob to left / counterclockwise) and it feels more smooth and pleasant....

And the Avid "Download the video" under "AUDIO SAMPLES" from here is worth a look: https://www.avid.com/plugins/heat


Good luck Donald - I'm sure you'll love it!

DonaldM 10-13-2019 06:38 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unkJE (Post 2541118)
And the Avid "Download the video" under "AUDIO SAMPLES" from here is worth a look: https://www.avid.com/plugins/heat


Good luck Donald - I'm sure you'll love it!

..


John, Thanks so much for the comments you posted. Yeah, I can tell already its going to take some finessing. So far, all I've done is just familiarize myself with it. Push it to both extremes with tone both ways just to see how it affects sound on various kinds of tracks. I like Bob's idea of using clip gain to control the input volume for it. That makes some sense.

I've seen the video with Dave Hill a couple of times. He's an interesting guy.

I'm going to go back to some earlier mixes I've done that are finished and then see how it changes them. It'll be fun to play around with for sure!

Luke BB 10-13-2019 11:54 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Is Heat so powerful, so warm? Can it really improve our sound?

There’s plenty of analog emulation plugins out there, what can Heat give more than these plugins?

DonaldM 10-13-2019 03:48 PM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Luke BB (Post 2541142)
Is Heat so powerful, so warm? Can it really improve our sound?

There’s plenty of analog emulation plugins out there, what can Heat give more than these plugins?


One thing that is different is that when Heat is activated it is activated on ALL the audio tracks, but not as a plugin. You can bypass it on individual tracks, or change from Pre to Post to apply it on each track. Then you have the master control where you have Tone and Drive. Drive can move from essentially tape saturation to tube saturation emulations. Tone does exactly what you'd expect, boost frequencies from lower to higher.



The reason this works so nicely is that it better emulates what used to happen with the big analog mix consoles where you get the coloring of sound on each channel and there's this sort of cumulative effect from all the harmonic distortions that took place. Having Heat added to all the audio tracks better captures that effect. Its subtle, but its definitely there.



Naturally, if you want something more for an individual track or submix bux, then just add in your saturation plugin of choice to those tracks and bypass Heat. Or use both if you want.

podusa 10-14-2019 02:30 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by feliponk (Post 2541073)
Hi: please check the following.


http://avid.force.com/pkb/articles/e.../Where-is-HEAT


Starting in version 11.0, Pro Tools includes HEAT as a System Plug-in (within the Pro Tools Application package) and does not require separate installation.

HEAT is activated when the HEAT iLok license is present on the same iLok as the Pro Tools HD license bundle. (See the HEAT Product Page for more info and a free trial.)


Call me stupid, but I still can't find out how to get it?

- I have an active Pro Tools Ultimate subscription

- I have an old expired license from 2010 on my iLok, but its "unavailable" and can't be moved or activated

- I can't request a new demo. Its always comes to "unknown error" when submitting my iLok ID. Tried several times from different computers.
(I know its included in the software, but by downloading a demo, I thought they could put a new license in my iLok account)

- I use PT 12.6

- Its not inside my Avid Complete PlugIn Bundle in the Download section in my Avid account?

- Am I totally stupid?

- Give me a step by step instruction puleeeeeze:)

Southsidemusic 10-14-2019 02:51 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
I am guessing you have a perpertual license with the support plan paid yearly ($399) that still works if you stop paying the plan but all updates and upgrades wont be available when you get off the support plan Or are you on a Subscription that will render your PT Ultimate non functional after you stop paying?

Subscription and annual support plan is not the same and HEAT is Only included with the Non Perpetual licenses that stop working 100% if and when you stop paying the sub fee. So if you are on the supoort plan (not subscription) then you need to buy HEAT as it ain’t included with those licenses. Only the subscriptions which is like ”renting PT” and will stop running if you stop paying the subscription fee.

podusa 10-14-2019 04:22 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Southsidemusic (Post 2541197)
I am guessing you have a perpertual license with the support plan paid yearly ($399) that still works if you stop paying the plan but all updates and upgrades wont be available when you get off the support plan Or are you on a Subscription that will render your PT Ultimate non functional after you stop paying?

Subscription and annual support plan is not the same and HEAT is Only included with the Non Perpetual licenses that stop working 100% if and when you stop paying the sub fee. So if you are on the supoort plan (not subscription) then you need to buy HEAT as it ain’t included with those licenses. Only the subscriptions which is like ”renting PT” and will stop running if you stop paying the subscription fee.

Ah, finally I got it..You are right. Thanks for explaining!
A very weird business decision (in my opinion) to not include it with all the other plug-ins? I mean..why really?

unkJE 10-14-2019 04:40 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by podusa (Post 2541201)
Ah, finally I got it..You are right. Thanks for explaining!
A very weird business decision (in my opinion) to not include it with all the other plug-ins? I mean..why really?

It’s pretty obvious why:
to encourage people to buy Subscriptions, instead of Perpetual licenses.

unkJE 10-14-2019 04:41 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Paraphrasing what Christopher wrote:

If you have an active Pro Tools or Pro Tools | Ultimate Subscription, HEAT is included at no extra charge and the HEAT license can be found inside your iLok account. Once your subscription expires, the HEAT license will expire as well.

Perpetual license holders can buy HEAT for US $199 from:
https://shop.avid.com/ccrz__ProductD...0&cclcl=en_US&

HEAT is compatible with both Pro Tools software v2019.6 and later;
Pro Tools | Ultimate (formerly Pro Tools HD) v12.1 and later

mspin 10-14-2019 06:38 PM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Can someone show what dropdown is referred to for heat? I do ot see this. I have the update and subscription for perpetual bundle and can’t find heat

BScout 10-14-2019 07:33 PM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mspin (Post 2541291)
Can someone show what dropdown is referred to for heat? I do ot see this. I have the update and subscription for perpetual bundle and can’t find heat

Do you have the ilok license on your key? It won't show up until you have that. It should have been deposited into your ilok account but then you have to put it on your key (or cloud i guess) and then open Pro Tools. It's a drop down menu but you can also unhide it on the mixer window (right side small arrow to open that panel up) and turn it on.

JFreak 10-15-2019 04:50 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by unkJE (Post 2541205)
HEAT is compatible with both Pro Tools software v2019.6 and later;
Pro Tools | Ultimate (formerly Pro Tools HD) v12.1 and later

ehm... HEAT is compatible with PT HD 8.1 and later :cool: originally TDM-only process

unkJE 10-15-2019 06:16 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JFreak (Post 2541332)
ehm... HEAT is compatible with PT HD 8.1 and later :cool: originally TDM-only process

Totally correct - if you add "Pro Tools|HD system required" with Pro Tools HD 8.1!

I was quoting Avid from:
https://shop.avid.com/ccrz__ProductD...0&cclcl=en_US&
System requirements
• Compatible with Pro Tools 2019.6 or later or Pro Tools | Ultimate v12.1 or later

Whereas, Avid says:
https://www.avid.com/support/trialdownload/HEAT
You’ll need a Pro Tools|HD system running Pro Tools HD 8.1 or higher software

Therefore, perhaps Avid should alter both pages to read:
• Compatible with Pro Tools 2019.6 or later or Pro Tools | Ultimate v12.1 or later or a Pro Tools|HD system running Pro Tools HD 8.1 or later

JFreak 10-15-2019 06:35 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Maybe better they do nothing here... whoever has a DSP system should already know.

unkJE 10-15-2019 07:18 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JFreak (Post 2541342)
Maybe better they do nothing here...


I certainly agree – I added “perhaps”, because perfect pedantry should know its own bounds!

However – on a constructive note – as HD software & system is no longer mandatory for HEAT (as from 2019.6), the System requirements on the Trial page should be updated:
https://www.avid.com/support/trialdownload/HEAT

JFreak 10-15-2019 07:37 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Very good point. Though this page is talking about HD systems :D

I'll ask if Avid has time to reword this now that hardware is not required and standard software is okay too.

mspin 10-15-2019 08:56 AM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BScout (Post 2541297)
Do you have the ilok license on your key? It won't show up until you have that. It should have been deposited into your ilok account but then you have to put it on your key (or cloud i guess) and then open Pro Tools. It's a drop down menu but you can also unhide it on the mixer window (right side small arrow to open that panel up) and turn it on.


I had a question about this. Currently my bundle is Cloud. My software is authorized via cloud.
Previously when my bundle was put on key I got a message that said cloud can't authorize software. Software did work though. So.....
If I put the bundle on Key will cloud still authorize?
Or will I get a message that says iCloud can't authorize session?
If bundle is placed on key then does the key have to be in the machine?
Or if the dongle goes bad will software not work?
By having cloud authorization is key being essentially bypassed?
Does cloud allow to take machine anywhere there is an internet connection and not have to have dongle in machine?

unkJE 10-15-2019 06:12 PM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by JFreak (Post 2541350)
....Though this page is talking about HD systems :D ....


To recap & more:

The HEAT Product Page - https://www.avid.com/plugins/heat - lists the SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS as:

Pro Tools software v2019.6 and later; Pro Tools | Ultimate (formerly Pro Tools HD) v12.1 and later (Avid hardware not required); Pro Tools | HDX (AAX DSP); Pro Tools | HD Accel (TDM)

Top RH corner of this same Page is the “Free trial” blue button – which is why I suggested updating the Trial Page to include the same SYSTEM REQUIREMENTS.

I also suggest the “Free trial” blue button should be included in the top RH corner here - https://shop.avid.com/ccrz__ProductD...0&cclcl=en_US& (even though it appears when clicking on “OVERVIEW” from this Page, some people did not realise the TRIAL exists).
As all 2019.6 (+) Subscribers already get HEAT for nix, I guess the majority of people who’d want a Trial are the Perpetual license holders of 2019.6 (+) and 12.1 HD (+)

If you are going to raise this (extremely!) minor issue with Avid (and we all know that there are far more important matters that should be addressed first!), could you please also ask Avid to update this page - https://www.avid.com/plugins/mdw-hi-...tive#Downloads – to include the official Avid links of the Updates listed here – http://duc.avid.com/showpost.php?p=2536188&postcount=14
Validity can be checked with Rail Jon Rogut from Massenburg DesignWorks®, who says MDWEQ5-AAX 5.2.1r17 is the final build.

Sincere thanks!

unkJE 10-15-2019 07:13 PM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mspin (Post 2541291)
....I have the update and subscription for perpetual bundle and can’t find heat

Subscription or Perpetual license? (Either/or - can't be both!)

Please install the new V5.1 of iLok License Manager. It will show whether your Pro Tools 2019.6 is a Subscription or a Perpetual license. You get HEAT with an active Subscription, but need to buy it if you have an active Perpetual license.


Quote:

Originally Posted by mspin (Post 2541360)
I had a question about this. Currently my bundle is Cloud. My software is authorized via cloud.
Previously when my bundle was put on key I got a message that said cloud can't authorize software. Software did work though. So.....
If I put the bundle on Key will cloud still authorize?
Or will I get a message that says iCloud can't authorize session?
If bundle is placed on key then does the key have to be in the machine?
Or if the dongle goes bad will software not work?
By having cloud authorization is key being essentially bypassed?
Does cloud allow to take machine anywhere there is an internet connection and not have to have dongle in machine?

If you do have an active 2019.6 Subscription with HEAT on your iLok, HEAT is already authorized, though you’ll need to activate it within Pro Tools by going to Options>Activate HEAT.
You can use either iLok Cloud or iLok, as your needs dictate.
Without your iLok connected, you can use your Cloud connection anywhere there is a fast and reliable (steady and constant) internet connection with no dropouts.
For a far better explanation of how to manage your iLok authorizations, please see the full story here:
https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/pro...d-managed-mode

The following is direct quote from above link:

Which iLok Cloud Mode Is Right For Me?


Automatic Mode
• I have a steady, constant, Internet connection
• I do not own any iLok USBs
• The licenses I own are all cloud enabled

Managed Mode
• I have a steady, constant, Internet connection
• I manage my licenses across several iLok USBs and computers
• Not all of my licenses are cloud enabled

unkJE 10-15-2019 08:47 PM

Re: Where's Heat?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mspin (Post 2541360)
Or if the dongle goes bad will software not work?


"TLC with ZDT enabled"


For total security and minimum downtime, if your iLok was broken, lost or stolen, you’d need (for US$30 per year) “Zero Downtime, with Theft & Loss Coverage (TLC) activated”
https://www.ilok.com/#!zdt-coverage

“This coverage is included at no additional cost with your Zero Downtime subscription, however you MUST enable TLC on your iLok BEFORE the iLok is lost or stolen.”

You’d also need a spare iLok when making a claim. Once all licenses are on the replacement iLok, an extra $30 would also be due for ZDT on the new iLok, as ZDT is not transferrable from the original iLok.


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