Originally Posted by noiseboyuk (Post 2558035)

(thanks v much - he's on the mend it seems, and hasn't had to go to hospital which is obviously a big deal.)

Originally Posted by cmbourget (Post 2558049)

The reality is that AVID wants to put an end to the owners and wants to achieve 100% subscriptions. This is hypocritical and immoral, because we bought the software and paid for each version, but morality or ethics is not considered. In order for us to go on a subscription basis, AVID is determined to do everything. That's why Avid makes the upgrade too difficult and directs everything to the subscription. Personally, I would go to the subscription if there was any real compensation, a buy-back of the licenses at least partial. "We're changing models, but it's not your fault (on the contrary, you kept us alive): we offer to buy back your license in exchange for a subscription of equivalent value." Now we'd be ethical. And Avid would keep more customers. But the chief accountant said no, I guess!

Originally Posted by cmbourget (Post 2558049)

The reality is that AVID wants to put an end to the owners and wants to achieve 100% subscriptions. This is hypocritical and immoral, because we bought the software and paid for each version, but morality or ethics is not considered.

Originally Posted by Tim R. (Post 2558060)

If you ever looked at your end user agreement (from AVID or ANY software you use), you would realize you NEVER owned your license. Every software company (other than "open source" software) maintains the policy that the user is licensing it's USE for a period of time (sometimes perpetually). I personally looked at the upgrade prices I had historically paid for AVID software in the past and found that the subscription cost was comparable. This is really not worth arguing about (since the ship has sailed), but to say AVID has put an end to "Owners" is just wrong.

Originally Posted by JFreak (Post 2558061)

That would also practically mean freezing your hardware, OS and other software to this point in time. You can try and tell us about the results later :cool: after X years you would eventually need to upgrade, which by then would mean a new license or a new subscription. Or whatever policy is in X years to come.

Originally Posted by Tim R. (Post 2558060)

If you ever looked at your end user agreement (from AVID or ANY software you use), you would realize you NEVER owned your license. Every software company (other than "open source" software) maintains the policy that the user is licensing it's USE for a period of time (sometimes perpetually). I personally looked at the upgrade prices I had historically paid for AVID software in the past and found that the subscription cost was comparable. This is really not worth arguing about (since the ship has sailed), but to say AVID has put an end to "Owners" is just wrong.

Originally Posted by JFreak (Post 2558064)

I bet large movie studios cannot live without Avid so they just adapt their prices accordingly. Economy 101 says that if so called normal users stop paying, the prices will rise and it is not a problem for those who write it off, but instead so called normal users find it hard to come back in the game later. So be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.