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basslik 07-27-2020 09:47 PM
Digi 002 rack
 
I just bought a used 002 rack, and would like to know two things.


I surrendered my PT9 license for the upgrade, but can always buy a used license so I can use the DIGI 002 rack if I have to use older versions of PT, which would be cool to pull up old sessions.

What's the last version of Pro Tools & drivers I can use with the DIGI 002 ?


I pretty much have every OS I need for for my too. thank you.

JFreak 07-27-2020 10:23 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Driver downloads here

Wizzoboy 07-28-2020 03:59 AM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
I'm still using an 002R with PT 2018.3 (where I stopped updating) without any problems.

JFreak 07-28-2020 05:43 AM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
You always need to try if it works for you or not. With that said Rack version is more likely to be usable longer as it only has the interface, without control surface. What I have heard there will be problems with control surface first.

basslik 07-28-2020 03:40 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wizzoboy (Post 2573724)
I'm still using an 002R with PT 2018.3 (where I stopped updating) without any problems.
Thanks folks,


Wizzoboy I see you are on a PC correct ?, I'm on Mac.


I'm having trouble lion seeing the audiocore multi channels?


I'm researching and I believe someone out there is on Mac mt. Lion or Lion running PT10 or 12 ?.


I'll try the boot sequence I heard about.

Darryl Ramm 07-28-2020 03:54 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by basslik (Post 2573772)
I'm having trouble lion seeing the audiocore multi channels?
.
CoreAudio :-)

But what do you mean exactly?... The Avid supplied 002 driver you installed is likely to either install and work totally or not. It's not likely to only become a two channel device. What does the Mac's Audio MIDI Setup app show for the devices? (post a screenshot of that if it is easier).

What shows up in Pro Tools Setup>IO might be a two channel device even if everything else is working OK. But that's just confused IO settings. Make sure that the Playback Engine selected is really your 002 and then Default that IO. (delete all the paths, then click the Default button on each tab in Setup>IO).

If you 002 is not working at all then Pro Tools will likely default to using the Built-In output as the Playback Engine and that can show up with only two output paths. And it might be possible say they end up with names that make you think your 002 was actually working and only two channels. Always explicitly check the Playback Engine is what you think it is... so easy to trip up when that changes.

basslik 07-28-2020 05:14 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
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Hi Darryl,
Running Lion PT10, iLok3 plugged in. 002 rack appears functioning as the manual indicated, sample rate light & mute light, as well as the 1394 firewire port on.
I've installed every version of drivers starting from 10.3.3 (9.0r3) worked my way up the the last version 11.1.5 since I seen someone on Youtube successfully run it on PT12.
Not letting me upload screenshot.
Shows audio core device 0in/0out
Pro Tools Aggregate 4in/2 out.
Every version I did uninstall the previous versions of drivers also.

basslik 07-28-2020 05:31 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
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I think I uploaded correctly ?

Darryl Ramm 07-28-2020 05:39 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
OK so the device is showing up but with 0 in/0 out... that may mean the driver is not working at all or may just be upset. Is the 002 connected and powered On? Leave it powered on and reboot your Mac... now what does it show up as more than 0 in/0 out.

This all at least makes more sense than two channels.... you should not ever see than.

You are clicked on the aggregate device in Audio MIDI Setup... but you hopefully are not trying to use that... and are using the 002 directly. I suspect your Pro Tools is starting up with the Aggregate Device as the Playback Engine and you are simply seeing the two audio outputs in that that are in that aggregate.

basslik 07-28-2020 06:21 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darryl Ramm (Post 2573786)
OK so the device is showing up but with 0 in/0 out... that may mean the driver is not working at all or may just be upset. Is the 002 connected and powered On? Leave it powered on and reboot your Mac... now what does it show up as more than 0 in/0 out.

This all at least makes more sense than two channels.... you should not ever see than.

You are clicked on the aggregate device in Audio MIDI Setup... but you hopefully are not trying to use that... and are using the 002 directly. I suspect your Pro Tools is starting up with the Aggregate Device as the Playback Engine and you are simply seeing the two audio outputs in that that are in that aggregate.
Yeah all I see is the aggregate. I also did the midi fix install.

Darryl Ramm 07-28-2020 06:35 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by basslik (Post 2573792)
Yeah all I see is the aggregate. I also did the midi fix install.
You mean all you see is aggregate as an option in the Playback Engine dialog?

Did you reboot the Mac with the 002 attached and left powered on?

If so that's then that's the 002 driver not working. Sorry I don't have any better help for you... I just wanted to explain why you only saw two IO.

basslik 07-28-2020 06:56 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Thank you.


Can you direct me for the correct driver. Seems like there is a few that work with various OS's. I'm on Lion running Pro Tools 10.3.10.

Darryl Ramm 07-28-2020 08:10 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by basslik (Post 2573795)
Thank you.


Can you direct me for the correct driver. Seems like there is a few that work with various OS's. I'm on Lion running Pro Tools 10.3.10.
As I said I have no specific advice.

If I was in your position I would have to try searching and reading though every post I could find. eg. start by googling...

"Windows 10" "002" "driver" site:duc.avid.com

And spend time reading.

Forget Pro Tools while you are testing the driver to start with, all you need to do to start with is install the driver and then shut down and connect hardware (--really want you to never hot plug/unplug that 002) and then power up and see if it shows up in Audio MIDI setup with actual inputs and outputs).

JFreak 07-28-2020 10:42 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Again, 00x family drivers are here. Latest version that supports 002 (tested) is 10.3.3 that added support for Mt.Lion

basslik 07-29-2020 01:22 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Thanks folks, will read. Janne I tried every installer version. Perhaps the 002 itself is faulty?. I was assured it perfect working order and it literally looks mint (BRAND NEWISH). Was informed was used rarely for financial training recording. Will research and read a lot and get back to you great folks with my findings, thanks.

Darryl Ramm 07-29-2020 01:27 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by basslik (Post 2573879)
Thanks folks, will read. Janne I tried every installer version. Perhaps the 002 itself is faulty?. I was assured it perfect working order and it literally looks mint (BRAND NEWISH). Was informed was used rarely for financial training recording. Will research and read a lot and get back to you great folks with my findings, thanks.
Here is a suggestion. Stop trying every version and try one that is absolutely claimed to work with your 002 and debug what is going on carefully.

Is the 1394 LED lit up on the 002? (The Firewire interface chips blowing up on the 002 those is not uncommon... hence my previous warning about not hot plugging those). Try swapping cable etc.

You would likely be so much better off here if you had a modern interface. Have you looked at what Focusrite and Presonus and others have available?

JFreak 07-29-2020 01:36 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Also google the infamous 002 power harness issue. If the unit does not work you may be able tonfix it yourself


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basslik 07-29-2020 07:54 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darryl Ramm (Post 2573880)
Here is a suggestion. Stop trying every version and try one that is absolutely claimed to work with your 002 and debug what is going on carefully.

Is the 1394 LED lit up on the 002? (The Firewire interface chips blowing up on the 002 those is not uncommon... hence my previous warning about not hot plugging those). Try swapping cable etc.

You would likely be so much better off here if you had a modern interface. Have you looked at what Focusrite and Presonus and others have available?

Doing a fresh install of Lion, with the correct 002 driver supported 10.3.3 (9.0r3).
The 1394 is lit, the power sequence in the manual seems okay. Mute/Sample rate lit.
Trying a different cable.
I had struck a deal back in March, a AESe16/Aurora16 combo. dude could not ship it due to lock down in Ohio at the time (CRAZY). Refunded my money and we will try again soon.

[QUOTE=JFreak;2573881]Also google the infamous 002 power harness issue. If the unit does not work you may be able tonfix it yourself
I heard about the harness years ago, but it has power.
[QUOTE


I have my Digi 003 console and trying to get this one fired up for a drummer buddy of mine, but no biggie.

I really appreciate you guys for being patient, THANKS

basslik 08-01-2020 01:16 PM
Re: Digi 002 rack
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Darryl Ramm (Post 2573773)
CoreAudio :-)

But what do you mean exactly?... The Avid supplied 002 driver you installed is likely to either install and work totally or not. It's not likely to only become a two channel device. What does the Mac's Audio MIDI Setup app show for the devices? (post a screenshot of that if it is easier).

What shows up in Pro Tools Setup>IO might be a two channel device even if everything else is working OK. But that's just confused IO settings. Make sure that the Playback Engine selected is really your 002 and then Default that IO. (delete all the paths, then click the Default button on each tab in Setup>IO).

If you 002 is not working at all then Pro Tools will likely default to using the Built-In output as the Playback Engine and that can show up with only two output paths. And it might be possible say they end up with names that make you think your 002 was actually working and only two channels. Always explicitly check the Playback Engine is what you think it is... so easy to trip up when that changes.

HI folks, Darryl I found the problem and it's the firewire chip in the backplane. Going to Mac forum to see If there's a way to recover the Rom if the ports are not fried. THANK YOU.


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