Bouncing to disk
 

Is WAV the windows equivalent of AIFF on MAC? ANd if so, is that the file I send to a user with a Mac if I am doing tracks for someone using a mac as I am using PC?

Also, I started working on my own cd, and when bouncing to MP3, WAV, Or AIFF, the sound is nothing close to the sound when I am listening back through my monitors with my session open.

So it came out too bassy, and I would basically have to totally guess if I eq'd it right and then spend 5 minutes bouncing hoping it will sound right? That pisses me off, so what am I doing wrong because one would think that is retarded and that I should hear a bounced version that sounds just like the session.......please help!

~Randy

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Assuming you are recording in 24 bit, you are listening to a 24 bit file in Pro Tools. When you bounce down I'm assuming this is to 16 you are losing all that Data.

If you are sending tracks to be worked on don't add any effects and don't bounce down. Take the file you want to send that is recorded in 24 bit from the audio files in your folder of your project. This ensures nothing is lost.

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Thanks for your response, but being dumb at recording, I am having a hard time understanding. How can I make the MP3 (I know it won't sound exactly the same), but how can I bounce to MP3 and have it sound atleast like the mix? Is there a way to send it to 24 bit?

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just looked at my settings as I went to bounce it to disc and see........"resolution" is set for 24 for WAV file and that's the highest that goes. I don't have a choice at all for MP3 but I can up the sample rate, although I don't know what that would do.

What about Sample rate? Mine is on 44.1

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The sound difference between the session (mine are usually at 24/48) and the bounce are very much different.

This is where getting someone else with an objective set of ears to master is so very necessary.

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I don't think you're understanding me. It isn't that I'm not happy with the sound as a finished product. What I'm not happy with is that when I bounce something down to share with someone else so they can start writing parts to it on their own time using Mp3 so I can email it to them, the bounce is far far different than the session. Do you guys bounce it to WMF? That gives me a choice to use 24. When I say too bassy, I don't mean the bass is a little too loud. I mean that on the session everything is eq'd right, and then the friggin bounced version makes my regular speakers want to crumble.

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No bro,

I meant that I completely understand what you are talking about.

I've had clients sitting with me during the bounce that that couldn't wait until they heard the song in I-Tunes to hear what it was really going to sound like.

The difference in resoultion from a higher sample rate is huge.

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Just tell the person your working with that this is a rough mix you're sending them. Then after averything is finished send him the final product. He will be amazed at how far it has come.

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Are you playing trough PT when listen to the 24 bit 44 khz file?
Maybe it can differ if you use like Windows Media Player.

Import the file into PT and listen to it so you are shure the app is´nt coloring the song.

Peter

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does anyone hear ever bounce something down as a reference for any purpose where it atleast comes out sounding similar to the rough mix. I understand how Mp3 is gonna have less integrity, but not that much less to the point where it sounds inaudible. There has to be someone here who has used PT to bounce down to a listenable reference using any media player.

A friend of mine who has gone to school for recording told me that what is bounced down should sound like the session within reason without having to re-eq everything in order to have a stupid reference. Besides, you would have to guess in order to master it at this rate because you don't know how it will sound once bounced so everything is supposed to be guesswork? This makes no sense.

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Always.
My bounces to .wav's never sound different from my working mix's.
Converting to 128kpbs mp3's only differ in what I would describe as "granularity"... especially in the top end.
Nothing I would describe as a drastic difference in overall EQ.
Note however, I do not ever use PT to create MP3's.
I use Sound Forge or CDEX.

What app do you listen back to your mix's with?
If you import your bounces back into PT they sound different?
Haven't a clue what may be happening on your end.

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I run into this same deal....

What I do is get my mix set in my monitors and save it.

THEN I save it under the same name but add MP3 to the file name.

I then do "test" MP3 bounces and ADJUST that mix listening to
on an MP3 player or another PC with Windows Media Player...
its a trial and error deal until you get it as close as you want.

I can get it down to 3 or 4 passes at this point.

All the points others have made here are absolutely correct
but to do what you and I want this is my own formula...PITA...
but it works.

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Gain differences can fool you into believing you are hearing a difference in EQ...
Just a thought.

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