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BScout 05-09-2019 01:59 PM

Re: HDX card still only shows 256 tracks
 
...Also releasing now to native gives Avid the ability to sell voice packs.

I mean, are we really going to ignore the financial benefit for Avid? :rolleyes:

subwoof 05-09-2019 02:22 PM

Re: HDX card still only shows 256 tracks
 
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Originally Posted by krabbencutter (Post 2524572)
By waiting :D The new HDX Firmware needed some more tweaking.
You can read the whole story here: https://www.pro-tools-expert.com/hom...sive-interview

Thanks for the link. I'm glad that Avid wants to get it right, but disappointed after reading the article that there is still a "sliver" of a chance it won't work for all HDX users. I would have appreciated a great big notice in the "What's New" page first thing in bold 24 point that let us HDX users know that the major feature of this release is not included, but "hopefully" will someday work and be released. I hope it happens.

subwoof 05-09-2019 02:25 PM

Re: HDX card still only shows 256 tracks
 
No, I exaggerate. I have waited from the beginning of January like everyone else for a 219 update. You caught me!

Southsidemusic 05-09-2019 02:48 PM

Re: HDX card still only shows 256 tracks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by BScout (Post 2524589)
...Also releasing now to native gives Avid the ability to sell voice packs.

I mean, are we really going to ignore the financial benefit for Avid? :rolleyes:

I mean are you really gonna start that again :rolleyes:

BScout 05-09-2019 03:28 PM

Re: HDX card still only shows 256 tracks
 
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Originally Posted by Southsidemusic (Post 2524609)
I mean are you really gonna start that again :rolleyes:

Me? This is the first time I've brought up that Avid is releasing a product feature early for the lower product that usurps the territory of the flagship product because they want to make a buck.

If this wasn't a potential money earner, they would have held it back until they sorted the HDX situation out. It's just bad form.

ProtoolsLover 05-09-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie Mac (Post 2524571)
There is no change for hdx users in this update.

Seems to be a pattern over the last 5 years......

ejsongs 05-10-2019 05:08 AM

Re: HDX card still only shows 256 tracks
 
Quite disappointed here over the hdx thing. The ONLY reason I renewed my subscription was for the increased voice count on hdx...now I am not sure exactly what the $400 was for. I don't know what the "near future" means. Avid could always take the hit and swap out the cards for the 15% user base where the upgrade doesn't work. the simple fact that I've kept current with my subscription should mean something.

I've been on pro tools since version 5. Been through tdm to tdm 2 to aaxdsp and 3 sets of cards (mix/accel/hdx), have owned all or most of their plugins for over 10 years or more now. I'm just not really seeing the benefit of this subscription other than putting money in Avid's pocket. At least with Waves Wup I get new plugins every year...not that I need more.

I guess natively the voice count thing is ok at best. My dante based Presonus Studio One rig has unlimited voices and a delay compensation engine up to I believe 32,000 samples. It can also record audio at buffer size of 16 samples at 44.1/48k.

Avid is losing me and has been for sometime. I hope they do something that makes me want to stay on this train other than my one sided loyalty or how heavily i've invested in them over the years.

Something...

garnoil 05-10-2019 06:04 AM

Re: HDX card still only shows 256 tracks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by subwoof (Post 2524568)
PT 2019.5.0 Ultimate is installed, along with the driver. My HDX card was also updated in the process but only show 256 tracks when opening a previous session. How do I get the promised track increase?

They say Pro-Tools HDX users that have HDX cards DO NOT get any extra voices. This is reserved for the non-HDX card users. Look this up in Pro-Tools expert, at least that is how I understood it and by the way...I am in the same boat! I think you have to be a lower level user (Native or without HDX hardware) to get free extra voices. With HDX cards you can not even 'rent' or buy any extra voices, you need to buy more HDX cards!

garnoil 05-10-2019 06:13 AM

Re: HDX card still only shows 256 tracks
 
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Originally Posted by subwoof (Post 2524581)
Okay, so a less expensive native card now has more voices than a premium HDX card? Sounds fair to me.


may be is time to dump the hdx cards and go native, it is a bad idea to keep buying HDX cards to get more voices. HDX is on its way out as this issue clearly demonstrates, the technology is too old

Jamie Mac 05-10-2019 06:30 AM

Re: HDX card still only shows 256 tracks
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by garnoil (Post 2524802)
may be is time to dump the hdx cards and go native, it is a bad idea to keep buying HDX cards to get more voices. HDX is on its way out as this issue clearly demonstrates, the technology is too old

I would agree.

AVID are trying to get the last bit of juice out of their almost 10 year old dsp cards. And they are not succeeding at this moment.


I sold my hdx cards last year and realised they were a major bottleneck in performance, once I switched over to a native based system.

Unless you need the extra IO that a multiple card system can give you. That seems to be the only advantage at this point.


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