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daslicht 01-31-2011 08:04 AM

Protools 9.0.1 + MacbookPro Unibody == crash
 
Hello,
according to the AVID support , I just reinstalled OSX and Protools to my MacBookPro unibody.
(Just 10.6.6 and Protools 9.0.1 nothing else)

After playing around about 5 minutes I get:

http://pastebin.com/ivSNrfGL

Anyone know how to fix such issues?

AVID Support told me after 2 Weeks of waiting time that I should reinstall all and if this wont work I have to contact Apple for support since the crash is OSX related.

I have never had any other problems on this Machine except Protools 9.0.1

getz76 01-31-2011 08:19 AM

Re: Protools 9.0.1 + MacbookPro Unibody == crash
 
No problems here on my 5,3 MacBook Pro. I have used Pro Tools 9.0 with 10.6.5 and 9.0.1 with 10.6.6 without issue.

However, the 10.6.6 completely borked my system. I used the combo update, too, but it completely hosed the system. Random kernel panics, freezes and all kinds of broken operation; none were related to Pro Tools. Although I had a good image of my 10.6.5, I decided to do a clean reinstall anyway. All is well now. If you do a search, you will see that 10.6.6 was causing plenty of random, unexplainable issues. I would revert to 10.6.5 if you are still having problems.

zodo 01-31-2011 02:55 PM

Re: Protools 9.0.1 + MacbookPro Unibody == crash
 
The actual crash appears in Thread 30 (line 329)...looks like it's in a Firewire callback. If you're using a Firewire audio device, make sure that you've got the latest drivers. Also, try changing firewire cables. Finally, if you're using a firewire hard drive, try swapping that out and see if you still have problems.

daslicht 02-01-2011 02:23 AM

Re: Protools 9.0.1 + MacbookPro Unibody == crash
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zodo (Post 1745374)
The actual crash appears in Thread 30 (line 329)...looks like it's in a Firewire callback. If you're using a Firewire audio device, make sure that you've got the latest drivers. Also, try changing firewire cables. Finally, if you're using a firewire hard drive, try swapping that out and see if you still have problems.

I am actually using the built in audio interface.

On the AVID Drivers page I have only found drivers for external AVID / M-Audio Interfaces.

Where do I find a driver for the internal Audio Interface of the Macbook Pro ?

daslicht 02-01-2011 02:27 AM

Re: Protools 9.0.1 + MacbookPro Unibody == crash
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by getz76 (Post 1745113)
I would revert to 10.6.5 if you are still having problems.

Funny thing is that I have updated to 10.6.6 sine Protools 9.0.1 don't event start up, it instantly crash.

All other Applications I have tried are working properly, no kernel panic at.


At the moment I just have 10.6.6 installed and Protools 9 nothing else to be able to narrow it easy down.

daslicht 02-09-2011 02:17 AM

Re: Protools 9.0.1 + MacbookPro Unibody == crash
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt
The actual reply was that this looked like it may be due to bad RAM.

Thats why I did the Hardware test as adviced by AVID support

Quote:

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt
No - software RAM testing apps rarely catch bad RAM (see my info about this in the General Troubleshooting thread). The ONLY way to properly test is to remove sticks or swap out with known good ones.

Have you tried replacing or swapping RAM sticks to see if it helps?

We don't test or approve RAM - it would be redundant.


Depending on how many sticks of RAM you have installed, you could try removing 1 or more, then test again. If it doesn't crash - you know that one of the sticks you removed is bad. If it still crashes, swap the installed ones with the one(s) you removed and test again.

That should help determine if you've got bad RAM or not. In the case you don't have multiple sticks to swap out, you would likely need to get your hands on some known good RAM and test with that. Yes, it's inconvenient, but that's sometimes the price we pay for owning and maintaining a computer system.

All of this is process of elimination - start with the most likely candidates and work down from there. In this case the log info you provided seems to point at possible bad RAM...


Ok, I try that.

Next Tuesday I am going to drive to a Apple Store, hopefully they have some known good RAM modules there.

After that we can get sure that it isn't the fault of the RAM Modules.

DigiTechSupt 02-09-2011 10:36 AM

Re: Protools 9.0.1 + MacbookPro Unibody == crash
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by daslicht (Post 1749965)
Thats why I did the Hardware test as adviced by AVID support

I'll talk to the tech you communicated with and make sure they know that software RAM tests aren't reliable. I didn't see anything in the notes indicating that they advised using software to test, otherwise I would have talked to them sooner...

mix109 02-09-2011 10:45 AM

Re: Protools 9.0.1 + MacbookPro Unibody == crash
 
I had major issues with BlueTooth turned on,might check it?

daslicht 02-10-2011 02:28 AM

Re: Protools 9.0.1 + MacbookPro Unibody == crash
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by DigiTechSupt (Post 1750233)
I'll talk to the tech you communicated with and make sure they know that software RAM tests aren't reliable. I didn't see anything in the notes indicating that they advised using software to test, otherwise I would have talked to them sooner...

Here thats what he suggested:

EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) is an error message that originates from the OS. Any changes to the Pro Tools setup or even a re-install won't resolve this.

Common suggestions are as follows,

1. Perform an Apple hardware test.
2. Repair disk permissions
3. Re-install the OS

Please consult Apple Support for more detailed information though.

...
I have got a feeling that this might have to do with bad memory.

Have you been able to speak to Apple Support yet? Have you done a hardware test?




According to the tech support I should perform the Apple Hardware Test which comes on the OSX Application Disk (the second DVD)

This hardware test (which includes a RAM Test) is a software test, is it?

daslicht 02-10-2011 02:39 AM

Re: Protools 9.0.1 + MacbookPro Unibody == crash
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mix109 (Post 1750240)
I had major issues with BlueTooth turned on,might check it?

Still the same.

I performed a DVerb test:
  • Created one audio track , generated 5 minutes test tone.
  • Created one audio track with 5 Dverbs.
  • Duplicated this track 5 times (45% CPU usage)
  • duplicated the last track another 4 times .... Beach Ball of Death

Thread 27 Crashed:
...gn.framework.CoreFoundation 0x0049a0ed Sys_VecUtils::Init() + 301
com.digidesign.framework.DAE 0x03e80b7e FWAudioCallback + 160856


http://pastebin.com/g3GXPUJk
Looks like that the com.digidesign.framework.DAE crashed.

FWAudioCallback ? I just use the internal Audio device.

Looks like I can reproduce that crash easily when performing like above.

I keep reporting, let's see where the RAM swapping at the Apple Service Point leads to.


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