setting the "output to amps" outputs to "rig no cab" affected also the (xlr) outputs!
hi, on stage I had my amp to be used as monitor so I 've pressed edit for 2-3 seconds opening the USER options. then I've choosen "outputs to amps" then output 1&2 setting them to "rig no cab".
FOR WHAT I UNDERSTOOD THE MAIN XLR OUPUTS SHOULDN'T BE AFFECTED...instead the same sound was outside in the PA so I had to choose Rig output. It's the same for the headphones as well.. Is it my mistake or there is something wrong? help please Enrico www.karnataka.org.uk |
Re: setting the "output to amps" outputs to "rig no cab" affected also the (xlr) outp
Any time you set them to "Rig out no cab" you're basically disabling the cabs completely. The only way to currently keep cab sims on in the XLR and of in the Outputs To Amp is to use the Amp out option.
There's been plenty of talk about separating the Amp and Cab blocks...if that was ever implemented it would make it easier to use 11r in the manner you're trying to use it. We'll see if it ever comes to fruition.... |
Re: setting the "output to amps" outputs to "rig no cab" affected also the (xlr) outp
"The only way to currently keep cab sims on in the XLR and of in the Outputs To Amp is to use the Amp out option."
that's what i actually did but it doesn't work... also I saw a youtube avid video about the live setting and the guy says clearly that nothing will be affected on the xlr outputs...here's the link .I did like scenario 3 and it changed also the sound on the PA! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tPgAtQ_i4A |
Re: setting the "output to amps" outputs to "rig no cab" affected also the (xlr) outp
the video is wrong.
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Re: setting the "output to amps" outputs to "rig no cab" affected also the (xlr) outp
thanks mate....sh.........it! :mad:
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Re: setting the "output to amps" outputs to "rig no cab" affected also the (xlr) outp
well...it is not literally wrong...it's just not very precise...Shawn doesn't say that switching on or off the cab sim can be done individually for Amp Out and XLR outs. But neither does he say that they're just one setting so if you go to "Rig out no cab" the cab sim is turned off on the XLRs as well. And that is the case.
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I guess we could discuss the definition of a "entire rig" or does "wrong" really apply, but that would be subordinate to your definition of 'rig' and whether or not the 'rig' implies to the casual listener/watcher as including the cabinet. What if I said "inaccurate" instead of 'wrong'? Would you accept that? The video is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0tPgAtQ_i4A And that above statement takes place at around 1:50 |
Re: setting the "output to amps" outputs to "rig no cab" affected also the (xlr) outp
I would say wrong.
If not a bug, a flaw in design IMO. |
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Without going into detail, in order to have the XLRs at full rig and the 1/4" at "rig Out No Cab" means two signal paths: one path has to be Pre-FX>Amp>Cab>Mic>Post-FX, and the other path has to be Pre-FX>Amp>Post-FX. Processing two signal paths simultaneously is something the 11R can't do. OTOH, choosing "Amp Output" for one of the 1/4" outs works differently. It leaves the signal path to be processed as Pre-FX>Amp>Cab>Mic>Post-FX, but grabs the signal for that 1/4" output from the output of the amp sim block, and before the Cab, Mic, and all Post-FX. Confused yet? I was until I read an official Avid explanation. :) |
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