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rev_mex 10-23-2020 11:14 PM

OK I'm done with my Digi003 - Help with new hardware
 
I'm frustrated. I'm old.

I've been holding on to my digi003 because it has 8 1/4 inputs (I have an MPC 2000XL). I use vintage equipment and I love making music with analog instruments. What is the modern day equivalent of the 003? I am not a big producer so I'm not trying to spend $3k. I make music in my home studio and if I decide I want to take it to the next level then I copy my session to a drive and take it to a real studio. But i want to work on my tracks at home. I don't do a lot of midi and plugins. I want to do straight wired analog recording.

Can someone point me to a good hardware that can replace my digi003? It also needs to have outputs for my recording monitors. It has to be compatible with Windows 10 and the latest protools version. Thunderbolt 3 preferred.
Sorry but im a bit frustrated. I keep trying to keep my 003 working and patches, updates etc are making it more difficult so I don't know where to go next.

Thanks anyone for help.

musicman691 10-24-2020 05:53 AM

Re: OK I'm done with my Digi003 - Help with new hardware
 
Are you using the desktop 003 or the rackmount? That makes a big difference in the recommendations. Do you really need USB-c? If not and you want to save money take a look at the MOTU interfaces.; they have several under $1000 Or if you can spend a bit more there's the UAD Apollo line.; a bit pricey and they have DSP.


Do you need low/no latency straight play-through of your external hardware? There's few interfaces that do that anymore. Some of the MOTU stuff can do that.

rev_mex 10-24-2020 06:56 AM

Re: OK I'm done with my Digi003 - Help with new hardware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by musicman691 (Post 2581003)
Are you using the desktop 003 or the rackmount? That makes a big difference in the recommendations. Do you really need USB-c? If not and you want to save money take a look at the MOTU interfaces.; they have several under $1000 Or if you can spend a bit more there's the UAD Apollo line.; a bit pricey and they have DSP.


Do you need low/no latency straight play-through of your external hardware? There's few interfaces that do that anymore. Some of the MOTU stuff can do that.

I use the 003 console version. Truth be told - I only use the input volume and monitor knobs. I adjust my levels and tweeks in pro tools. I'm basically saying that I don't really need a huge console but since I am a hands on person then some knobs that can adjust volume controls would be nice. Also, I only say USB-C because i never understood USB vs firewire in my 003. I just wanted to hit "record" and not expect a lock up so I thought firewire was the best and faster than USB.
Are there specific models you recommend? Can they be "standards" something that everyone has and loves?
I appreciate you responding. Meanwhile I am going to get an old PC (old Windows OS) from my garage and try to get my 003 going on it til i find something modern.
Lastly, I'm always on youtube so I can always look up review vids to help narrow what I need. I just need some salesman type guidance. Thank you!
btw, not sure what you mean by "Do you need low/no latency straight play-through of your external hardware? " Does that mean that if I play instruments along with tracks that I recorded? YES, if so.

EDIT: NEVERMIND ABOUT USB-C. I meant Thunderbolt 3!

OK I just looked up MOTU 828x. This looks like it's an answer. It has the 8 inputs I need. I just have to see if there's something a little better and if it works with protools. Looks like it's been around for a while so I have to see if there's something more modern.

Cowboy Bob 10-24-2020 07:48 AM

Re: OK I'm done with my Digi003 - Help with new hardware
 
I retried my 003+ R a few years ago replacing it with the Focusrite Claret 8 Pre X. Much less than $3k and it sounds good. I use Artist mix and the Pro Tools control app on iPad. The Claret is really, in my opinion, what the Avid 004R would have looked like.

Thunderbolt 2 both Mac & PC. A thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter works just fine.

Actually my 003r + is only semi retired. It now lives in a rack case on wheels that I use with my win 7 laptop for mobile recording.

Just a thought.

rev_mex 10-24-2020 07:58 AM

Re: OK I'm done with my Digi003 - Help with new hardware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Cowboy Bob (Post 2581007)
I retried my 003+ R a few years ago replacing it with the Focusrite Claret 8 Pre X. Much less than $3k and it sounds good. I use Artist mix and the Pro Tools control app on iPad. The Claret is really, in my opinion, what the Avid 004R would have looked like.

Thunderbolt 2 both Mac & PC. A thunderbolt 2 to thunderbolt 3 adapter works just fine.

Actually my 003r + is only semi retired. It now lives in a rack case on wheels that I use with my win 7 laptop for mobile recording.

Just a thought.

Thank you for the reply, I am up looking things up. Yes, I'm a real simple person. I don't need bells and whistles. I am just looking for an equivalent of a 003 but a modern version. By equivalent I mean performance wise not a huge console. I was happy with the sound of the 003 so I want to be happy with the sound in the new thing. I'm assuming I connect this to my PC and use Protools with it like the 003? I'm looking this up.

musicman691 10-24-2020 10:04 AM

Re: OK I'm done with my Digi003 - Help with new hardware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rev_mex (Post 2581006)
I use the 003 console version. Truth be told - I only use the input volume and monitor knobs. I adjust my levels and tweeks in pro tools. I'm basically saying that I don't really need a huge console but since I am a hands on person then some knobs that can adjust volume controls would be nice. Also, I only say USB-C because i never understood USB vs firewire in my 003. I just wanted to hit "record" and not expect a lock up so I thought firewire was the best and faster than USB.
Are there specific models you recommend? Can they be "standards" something that everyone has and loves?
I appreciate you responding. Meanwhile I am going to get an old PC (old Windows OS) from my garage and try to get my 003 going on it til i find something modern.
Lastly, I'm always on youtube so I can always look up review vids to help narrow what I need. I just need some salesman type guidance. Thank you!
btw, not sure what you mean by "Do you need low/no latency straight play-through of your external hardware? " Does that mean that if I play instruments along with tracks that I recorded? YES, if so.

EDIT: NEVERMIND ABOUT USB-C. I meant Thunderbolt 3!

OK I just looked up MOTU 828x. This looks like it's an answer. It has the 8 inputs I need. I just have to see if there's something a little better and if it works with protools. Looks like it's been around for a while so I have to see if there's something more modern.

The 828x is pretty darn good for what the average bedroom producer wants. And it will work with PT. As to straight play-thru what I'm talking about is the ability to play your external hardware without going through a/d and d/a conversions and the subsequent delay. Because you're looking at the MOTU take a look at what they call CueMix. With that you can setup a direct monitoring of your external h/w AND record into PT at the same time. It will also allow you to play your external h/w and you don't want to power up the computer.

albee1952 10-24-2020 01:23 PM

Re: OK I'm done with my Digi003 - Help with new hardware
 
I also retired my 003R a few months ago(and also had the mixer version but used very little of the surface). My replacement is the Presonus Studio 1810c and its been working quite nicely once I gave up on the crappy USB-c card I bought. Instead, I just run it in on a USB3 port. The next model up gives more IO if you need it:o

sw rec 10-25-2020 10:06 AM

Re: OK I'm done with my Digi003 - Help with new hardware
 
Does your computer already have Thunderbolt? Typically, this isn’t something you can just “add on.”

rev_mex 10-25-2020 02:50 PM

Re: OK I'm done with my Digi003 - Help with new hardware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by sw rec (Post 2581057)
Does your computer already have Thunderbolt? Typically, this isn’t something you can just “add on.”

Yes. I’ve been looking at audio interface videos since I’ve posting this. Lol

Darryl Ramm 10-25-2020 04:03 PM

Re: OK I'm done with my Digi003 - Help with new hardware
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by rev_mex (Post 2581074)
Yes. I’ve been looking at audio interface videos since I’ve posting this. Lol

What exact make/model computer do you have?

USB-C is just a type of connector... it does not tell you what protocols are supported. A USB-C connector on a PC usually does *not* imply it has Thunderbolt support, they likely only provide USB 3 or 2 and no Thunderbolt, unless it is specifically called out. A USB-C connector on an interface might support say USB-3 or Thunderbolt... not both. You have to be clear what it actually supports.

I am going to guess that Thunderbolt interfaces are really not a good option for you.


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