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Bruce Paine 06-06-2014 10:33 AM

Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
June 06, 2014
Blackmagic Desktop Video Software version 10.1.1 is now available for download:
www.blackmagicdesign.com/support

Mac OS X Release Notes:

About Blackmagic Desktop Video Software

Welcome to the Desktop Video software for Mac OS X!
This software includes everything you need to set up your DeckLink, UltraStudio, Intensity and H.264 Pro Recorder for any task in your facility.

What's new in Desktop Video 10.1.1
  • Audio fixes on all inputs and outputs.
  • 10-bit RGB support on HDMI in all HD modes.
  • Fixes for Avid Media Composer Title Tool and timeline output.
  • Fixes for output flicker and issue when replacing clips of different formats in Pro Tools 11.
  • General performance and stability improvements.
Minimum system requirements
  • Mac OS X 10.9 Mavericks or later.
  • Mac OS X 10.8 Mountain Lion or later.
  • Thunderbolt Mac or Mac Pro model with suitable PCIe slot.
  • 4 GB of system memory.
Third Party Software Support
  • DaVinci Resolve 10 and 11
  • Apple Final Cut Pro X
  • Apple Motion 4
  • Adobe Premiere Pro CC or CS6
  • Adobe After Effects CC or CS6
  • Adobe Photoshop CC or CS6
  • Autodesk Smoke 2013
  • Avid Media Composer 7 and later
  • Avid News Cutter 11
  • Avid Symphony 6.5
  • Avid Pro Tools 8, 9, 10, 11
  • The Foundry Nuke
If you have installed the drivers prior to installing any of these applications, we recommend that you uninstall and reinstall the drivers. This will ensure that all relevant components are installed in their required locations.

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Windows Release Notes:

About Blackmagic Desktop Video Software

Welcome to the Desktop Video software for Windows!
This software includes everything you need to set up your DeckLink, UltraStudio, Intensity and H.264 Pro Recorder for any task in your facility.

What's new in Desktop Video 10.1.1
  • Audio fixes on all inputs and outputs
  • 10-bit RGB support on HDMI in all HD modes.
  • Fixes for Avid Media Composer Title Tool and timeline output
  • General performance and stability improvements
Minimum system requirements

DeckLink, UltraStudio and Intensity products
  • Microsoft Windows 8 64-bit
  • Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit
  • Microsoft Windows Server 2008 64-bit
  • Thunderbolt Motherboard or Notebook
  • 4 GB of system memory.
USB 3.0 Products
  • Microsoft Windows 7 64-bit
  • A suitable USB 3.0 port using a Renesas chipset
  • 4 GB of system memory
Third Party Software Support
  • DaVinci Resolve 10 and 11
  • Adobe Premiere Pro CC or CS6
  • Adobe After Effects CC or CS6
  • Adobe Photoshop CC or CS6
  • Avid Media Composer 6, 7 or later
  • Avid Media Symphony 6 or 7
  • Avid News Cutter 6 or 7
  • Sony Vegas Pro 9
  • The Foundry Nuke
  • eyeon Fusion 6
  • Cyberlink Power Director
  • Corel Video Studio X5
  • VLC
If you have installed the drivers prior to installing any of these applications, we recommend that you uninstall and reinstall the drivers. This will ensure that all relevant components are installed in their required locations.

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Additional Information

Please check www.blackmagicdesign.com for additional information on third party software compatibility and minimum system requirements.

Some applications may use third party code under license. For details please refer to the included "Third Party Licenses.rtf" document.

© 2014 Blackmagic Design Pty. Ltd. All rights reserved. Blackmagic Design, Blackmagic, DeckLink, Multibridge, HDLink, Videohub, and "Leading the creative video revolution" are trademarks of Blackmagic Design Pty. Ltd., registered in the U.S.A and other countries.

Updated June 06, 2014.

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Bruce Paine
Community Administrator
Avid Pro Audio Community

brucema12 06-13-2014 05:16 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
We are a power user of BM cards in our audio post environment. I did install these new drivers and deid not notice and change in PT 11 performance.

Danny Caccavo 06-22-2014 06:15 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Also, take care, as these drivers seem to add another frame of delay which you'll have to compensate for in Video Sync Offset.

Audiomatrix 06-24-2014 05:58 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
MUCH better video performance in PT11 vanilla on Intensity Pro card Mac OS X - nudging, dragging and playback start time all dramatically improved with this driver.

+1 on the extra frame delay.

Happy days!

Pete Gates 07-01-2014 06:12 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
10.1.2 available now.

Pete

Bob Olhsson 07-09-2014 11:24 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Is Pro Tools 11 on Windoze supported? It isn't on the list.

seanmccoy 07-27-2014 12:43 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Olhsson (Post 2170094)
Is Pro Tools 11 on Windoze supported? It isn't on the list.

Pro Tools of any kind are missing from the list. Just installed a Decklink SDI 4K in W8, latest drivers, and can't get either HD10 or HD11 to see it. Is anybody successfully using BM cards for external video in Windows?

AndrewAction 07-27-2014 06:20 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanmccoy (Post 2174216)
Is anybody successfully using BM cards for external video in Windows?

Yes, I'm on ProTools 11.2 with BlackMagic Driver 10.1.1 with an Intensity Pro.
All seems to be good, although I wouldn't say it's thoroughly tested at this stage. I also had no problems with ProTools 11.1.3 / BlackMagic 10.1.1 / Intensity Pro.. Windows 7 SP1

Andrew

pablovius 08-06-2014 10:31 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
..and is there a consensus as to the video frame offset with this new driver?

Frank Kruse 08-06-2014 10:37 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pablovius (Post 2176744)
..and is there a consensus as to the video frame offset with this new driver?

no, because it depends on various things. the codec, your computer, your screen and other processing in your video signal chain.

you have to syncheck it.

lululu 08-13-2014 12:03 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
sorry for the newbie question, but I'm looking for a neat 3 screen solution for my laptop to do the occasional work at home...
Has anyone got some positive experience with BM Intensity Shuttle for USB 3 in combo with a MBP 13" (mid 2012)?

Pete Gates 08-14-2014 08:09 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Desktop Video 10.1.4 is up on the Blackmagic site now.

Pete

Farhoof 10-16-2014 02:39 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Desktop Video 10.2.2 is up since oct 13th. Anyone tried it yet?

sitbh 10-16-2014 05:22 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Farhoof (Post 2193859)
Desktop Video 10.2.2 is up since oct 13th. Anyone tried it yet?

Running 10.2.2 with PT11.2.1 and 10.3.9 co-install with a blackmagic decklink HD extreme 3D+. All good here. I jumped from desktop video 10.1.1 and the usual crap in PT11 has disappeared. I used to get half a second of black if i just jump around the timeline before the picture appears. Occassionally playback wouldnt start for a couple seconds (video only, audio fine). All seems remedied.

Marcel Risberg 10-17-2014 08:46 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Downloading now. Going to install later this evening, although being in the middle of a project.

Constantly looking for the holy grail in form of PT 11 version and various drivers around it.

Marcel Risberg 03-08-2016 05:13 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
I think it would make sense to rename the title of this thread to "Blackmagic Desktop Video Software", without any version numbers in it. It doesn't make much sense to have an obsolete thread like this pinned. This thread could serve us better.

Anyway; there is a new generation of Blackmagic video drivers out: 10.6.x. Has anyone tried them? Any comments?

The 10.5.x generation wasn't very popular. Didn't work with my system at all. I tried every 10.5.x version and everyone of them were drifting 100+ milliseconds.

I'm still on 10.4.x, namely the 10.4.3.

TVPostSound 03-13-2016 10:44 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
10.6.2 Actually works really well

Installed it, and tested for 2 hours with no issues.

PTHD 12.4 on Yosemite

ex-user 03-14-2016 03:44 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel Risberg (Post 2340792)
I think it would make sense to rename the title of this thread to "Blackmagic Desktop Video Software"

The 10.5.x generation wasn't very popular. Didn't work with my system at all. I tried every 10.5.x version and everyone of them were drifting 100+ milliseconds.

Agreed about the thread rename.

10.5 would BSOD on Windows with Pro Tools. BM support were simply 'we don't support it', not even interested in the memory dump. So I went AJA and it feels so much better and has been rock solid stable.

I'd like to hope that 10.6.2 is better (at least fixed the BSOD) but quite frankly cannot be bothered to swap cards out, install software etc, since the AJA stuff works so well.

hungthinhvip 03-21-2016 10:46 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Also, take care, as these drivers seem to add another frame of delay which you'll have to compensate for in Video Sync Offset.

Marcel Risberg 03-21-2016 04:59 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Thanks guys. I'm about to try 1.6.x myself some time this week.

I'm looking forward to try an AJA video device some day. Though, with a reasonable stable driver for the BM device, as the 10.4.x generation for me, I'm okay with with my Intensity. The PT video engine or PT video integration has gotten better over time. Currently at 12.4.

Welcome to the community hungthinhvip.

Marcel Risberg 03-26-2016 03:16 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Got myself to between two projects, so, I tried the latest video drivers available from BlackMagic as of posting this. Tried to find a newer needle in the haystack than my kind of trusty old 10.4.3. Sadly found out that I got unacceptable results with my system from all of the newer drivers. These are the details of my results using BM Intensity Pro:

10.6.0, 10.6.1, 10.6.2:
  • Needs 240ms of video offset to stay in sync for the first few seconds of playback.
  • The video drifts in sync; got to about 100ms earlier after 30 seconds of playback.
10.5.0, 10.5.1, 10.5.2, 10.5.3, 10.5.4:
  • Needs 240ms of video offset to stay in sync for the first few seconds of playback.
  • The video drifts in sync; got to about 100ms earlier after 30 seconds of playback.
10.4.3:
  • Needs 90ms of video offset.
  • The video stayed in sync for an hour of playback. (checked every 5-10 minutes)
Conclusion: I'll stay with the 10.4.3 driver.

Ps. I'm not filing any reports to Blackmagic or Avid as my system doesn't qualify for Pro Tools 12. That is, I don't expect to receive any help anyway.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TVPostSound (Post 2341898)
10.6.2 Actually works really well
Installed it, and tested for 2 hours with no issues.
PTHD 12.4 on Yosemite

I'm curious: What machine and video hardware do you use?

Marco Bernardo 03-26-2016 03:40 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel Risberg (Post 2344595)
Got myself to between two projects, so, I tried the latest video drivers available from BlackMagic as of posting this. Tried to find a newer needle in the haystack than my kind of trusty old 10.4.3. Sadly found out that I got unacceptable results with my system from all of the newer drivers. These are the details of my results using BM Intensity Pro:

10.6.0, 10.6.1, 10.6.2:
  • Needs 240ms of video offset to stay in sync for the first few seconds of playback.
  • The video drifts in sync; got to about 100ms earlier after 30 seconds of playback.
10.5.0, 10.5.1, 10.5.2, 10.5.3, 10.5.4:
  • Needs 240ms of video offset to stay in sync for the first few seconds of playback.
  • The video drifts in sync; got to about 100ms earlier after 30 seconds of playback.
10.4.3:
  • Needs 90ms of video offset.
  • The video stayed in sync for an hour of playback. (checked every 5-10 minutes)
Conclusion: I'll stay with the 10.4.3 driver.

Ps. I'm not filing any reports to Blackmagic or Avid as my system doesn't qualify for Pro Tools 12. That is, I don't expect to receive any help anyway.


I'm curious: What machine and video hardware do you use?

I can state that too the newest drivers have those symptoms the high need of video offset and that weird drift that it does. I go back to 10.4.1 again stable and stayed in sync for ours (i did the same test) never tried the 10.4.3.

Watagushu2013 03-26-2016 05:41 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
I use Driver version 9.5.2 with 12.4 HD & 10.3.10 with good results. Any new driver have been unreliable.
System: Mac OS X
Black magic deck link extreme HD

seanmccoy 03-29-2016 02:14 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Wonder how 10.6.2 is faring on Windows. I had to go back to 10.3.7 to get my system to work, so I'm afraid to even try the newest driver. Has anybody been bold enough yet?

Marcel Risberg 03-29-2016 04:14 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by seanmccoy (Post 2345439)
Wonder how 10.6.2 is faring on Windows.

If it's anything like the OS X version it's broken and should be avoided. Try it out for yourself. If it doesn't cut it, just uninstall it and install an older one. Still, I notice you use fancier BM hardware than I do. Maybe the latest driver runs well with your system.

seanmccoy 03-29-2016 04:45 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel Risberg (Post 2345478)
If it's anything like the OS X version it's broken and should be avoided. Try it out for yourself. If it doesn't cut it, just uninstall it and install an older one. Still, I notice you use fancier BM hardware than I do. Maybe the latest driver runs well with your system.

Nope, I'm too chicken. :o I just don't feel like digging out my Syncheck again if anything gets fouled up. It's squirelly enough as it is.

Goombot 04-25-2016 11:36 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
I just saw this post. I had posted this in the ProTools 12 forum but it directly pertains to this thread.

"I just thought I'd post this since I just went through a lengthy testing process. My specs are...

Mac Pro 3.5GHz, 32 RAM
OS 10.11.4 El Capitan
ProTools HD 12.4
Desktop Video Utility 10.4.3
Samsung UN55H6203AF television monitor

In a quick summation, no Blackmagic driver from 10.5 - 10.6.3 played back video in synch with audio. Also, all versions of 1080 video, no matter which codec (certainly didn't try them all but tried a few) show up on my monitor cropped when the tv is set to its default 16:9. The cropping was fixed when I switched the tv to "Screen Fit". Driver 10.4.3 is the only version that plays video in synch with ProTools 12.4 in El Capitan even though it isn't supported for El Capitan. I also tried this on a 2012 Macbook Pro and all the findings were exactly the same. I have been communicating with Blackmagic about this and they suggested that I play video out their Media Express player and I did that with the latest driver, 10.6.4, and again, it was cropped on my tv when it was set to the default 16:9, but got fixed when I set it to "Screen Fit". I couldn't tell if the audio was out of synch because I could not get sound out of the Media Express player.

So there could be a couple of things. Those drivers could work in other software or other versions of ProTools or other versions of the Mac OS but they don't work in the latest OS with 12.4. The cropping issue could be more related to the television than to the MiniMonitor but it always worked before with the television set to 16:9 and it doesn't now. Since the monitor isn't a professional monitor changing the television setting is fine and picture is still the same and in synch.

Blackmagic tech did get back to me multiple times but really had no answer besides testing things through the Media Express player. I basically stopped communicating with them because they wouldn't admit that things didn't work and honestly seemed like they were totally unaware of the issues and hadn't tested anything themselves.

Watagushu2013 04-26-2016 08:10 AM

Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Thanks for the post.

I have an old black magic extreme HD and it has been working fine only with 9.5.2. I use it now in protools 12.5 and the only thing that occurs is that if I try to monitor any 1080@23.98 or 24fps video in any codec, it outputs a cropped 2048/1080 video on the tv. I don't know if this is caused by an sdi to hdmi adapter that I use to view on the tv or my tv itself.But the only way to fix it is to change the output of the video track in protools to 1080i 29.97 or 59.94 using the command key (Mac) and pressing the output tab.

That's my story.
I will test it with an Aja kona sometime soon
I will publish my findings

Goombot 04-26-2016 10:40 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
If you have to switch video frame rates in order to make things work then things are really wrong. I would immediately start using something else if that's the work around. Black magic really needs to get their s**t together.

Watagushu2013 04-26-2016 03:58 PM

Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Perhaps!
But is still gets out in sync!
It's a workaround. That's why I try to work always on 720p

fizpop 05-24-2016 08:11 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Watagushu2013 (Post 2352761)
Thanks for the post.

I have an old black magic extreme HD and it has been working fine only with 9.5.2. I use it now in protools 12.5 and the only thing that occurs is that if I try to monitor any 1080@23.98 or 24fps video in any codec, it outputs a cropped 2048/1080 video on the tv. I don't know if this is caused by an sdi to hdmi adapter that I use to view on the tv or my tv itself.But the only way to fix it is to change the output of the video track in protools to 1080i 29.97 or 59.94 using the command key (Mac) and pressing the output tab.

That's my story.
I will test it with an Aja kona sometime soon
I will publish my findings

Let me know how the Kona Test goes, I have a BM card as well as a Kona but dont really have the time to test both properly. Stuck on PT 10 with the BM card at the moment.

8dB.co.uk 05-24-2016 08:44 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goombot (Post 2352798)
If you have to switch video frame rates in order to make things work then things are really wrong. I would immediately start using something else if that's the work around. Black magic really needs to get their s**t together.

Not necessarily.

Take a look at my Pro Tools Expert article comparing different video playback software to the AVE, using Blackmagic hardware.

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Goombot 05-24-2016 10:00 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
send link...

Watagushu2013 05-24-2016 10:19 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Hi
I just installed an aja kona 3 in my protools 12.5 rig.
I am using 10.8.5 but I could install the latest driver for this card (10.6.1) that supports Mavericks and Yosemite, although works fine in mountain lion.
I think the driver is better written because I can now watch 1080p24 on my tv and my Blackburst reference video is showing in the Aja's control panel, with blackmagic drivers you could not see if the reference was getting in to the card.
Just my findings.

Cheers


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8dB.co.uk 05-24-2016 10:29 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Goombot (Post 2359313)
send link...

http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home-page/2016/3/10/is

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SL1 06-01-2016 09:05 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Can I use a BM Decklink with PT 12 Vanilla or does it have to be HD, ideally would like to use the HDMI out, but will settle for the Analogue if thats all it can do? thanks!

Brandonx1 06-01-2016 09:32 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 8dB.co.uk (Post 2359321)

Didn't this guy just do a blog about AVE saying it performed well?

http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home...rt.html?rq=ave

8dB.co.uk 06-01-2016 10:58 AM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Brandonx1 (Post 2361096)
Didn't this guy just do a blog about AVE saying it performed well?

http://www.pro-tools-expert.com/home...rt.html?rq=ave

As I remember, he found the AJA to be good but not BM.

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Marcel Risberg 07-03-2016 12:40 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Repeating myself regarding the topic of this thread:
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel Risberg (Post 2340792)
I think it would make sense to rename the title of this thread to "Blackmagic Desktop Video Software", without any version numbers in it.


Desktop Video just got a minor generation update: 10.7.x. I'm going to give those drivers a chance, although all of the 10.5.x and 10.6.x drivers performed bad with my Intensity Pro. I don't like falling behind with software updates, so I'm hoping for the best.

Copy and paste from their site:

Quote:

What's new in Desktop Video 10.7
New features on Artist DNxIO:
  • Add support for more DNxHR profiles on capture with Artist DNxIO
  • Add support for audio punch-in

Fixes on UltraStudio 4K Extreme & Artist DNxIO:
  • Fix intermittent PCIe detection issue on some PCs
  • Output conversions are now applied to analog connections too
  • Fix incorrect genlock offset in some modes
Fixes on all models:
  • Fix issue when recording to tape using DaVinci Resolve
  • Improved Avid support
  • General performance and stability improvements


audiobob 07-08-2016 05:34 PM

Re: Blackmagic Desktop Video Software v10.1.1 Update
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcel Risberg (Post 2367861)
Repeating myself regarding the topic of this thread:



Desktop Video just got a minor generation update: 10.7.x. I'm going to give those drivers a chance, although all of the 10.5.x and 10.6.x drivers performed bad with my Intensity Pro. I don't like falling behind with software updates, so I'm hoping for the best.

Copy and paste from their site:

So how did it go?


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