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Mastersonics
02-08-2003, 05:45 PM
hi
just got a new pair and need some opinions on
what would be a good amp to match them with.

any help would be appreciated!

thanks,
charles

Dan Pinder
02-08-2003, 06:20 PM
Look on eBay for a Yamaha P2002 !!

Mastersonics
02-08-2003, 06:30 PM
hi dan

just checked and nothing
can you tell me more about this amp?

thanks for the info
regards,
charles

THETHRILLFACTOR
02-08-2003, 09:59 PM
Look for a Bryston 4BST or a pair of 2BST in dual mono.

Dopamine
02-09-2003, 01:20 AM
ONLY ONE TO CONSIDER:

YAMAHA'S P-2200
LESS THAN $200 ON EBAY
A SERIOUS BEAST OF AN AMP
I'll stop screaming now

Jakeman
02-09-2003, 09:18 AM
I agree with THETHRILLFACTOR about the Bryston 4B. Great amp. I use both a 3B and 4B. Around $250-300 last I looked on eBay.

Mastersonics
02-09-2003, 09:45 AM
hi everyone

thanks for the info
my only concern is too much power to the yamaha's
some of these amps are rated at over 200 watts @ 8 ohms.

the RMS on the Yamaha's says 60w/160w peak 8 ohms
i'm concerned that this is going to be too much
and i'll blow them out if i crank them

and since these are discontinued
finding parts could be a hassle down the road

what would be your take on this?
i heard only good things on the Bryston
maybe i'll decide for that but
i would like to be totally clear on the watts department
before i commit to an amp for the Yamaha's.

any comments?
thanks,
charles

pookadilly
02-09-2003, 11:10 AM
We are buying some new amps right now my research has shown that the Hafler P4000 or P7000 is the right choice unless you have the cash and then the Perreaux stuff (750) is incredible. Pure class A and very clean power amps. The P4000 is under $1k is money is a concern.

Kev
02-09-2003, 11:27 AM
Originally posted by Mastersonics:
hi everyone

....
my only concern is too much power to the yamaha's
some of these amps are rated at over 200 watts @ 8 ohms.
<font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You should be more concerned about using an amp that is under-rated.

If you were to use a 60W, it is likely you would damage the NS10's.

There is enough info on speaker/amp ratings and clipping and headroom etc, already on the net so I don't need to say it again here

Mastersonics
02-10-2003, 06:22 PM
hi kev
i understand the under power scenario, thanks

what about any other brands between these 2 mentioned above?

thanks a lot everyone for the info

regards,
charles

DesertDude
02-10-2003, 06:27 PM
yamaha P220 on ebay 3 hours to go (http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2505834335&category=23787)

I had that exact set up, to be honest it was kinda thick sounding... I think it has a slow slew?


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Alécio Costa
02-10-2003, 07:47 PM
if you want a small, budget thing, check the a100a. I ave ine here, but since you are in the USA, you shall buy it almost half at ebay!
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Alécio Costa
02-10-2003, 07:51 PM
if you want a small, budget thing, check the a100a. I ave ine here, but since you are in the USA, you shall buy it almost half at ebay!
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Clif Norrell
02-10-2003, 08:51 PM
I was using a Yamaha P-2200 for my NS-10's and yes, they are a beast of an amp, but all brute force and no refinement. I think you are better off spending a bit more to get something clearer sounding, like some of those suggested above.

I've also had better luck with some of the higher end Crown amps on NS-10's. The DC-300 is an old favorite, and the Crown Studio Reference 2 is a monster, maybe overkill for NS-10's, but still an incredible amp.

Muzoid
02-11-2003, 05:03 AM
Forget all the specs / wattage and the blah, blah, blah...

Every single time that I have walked into a major recording studio that I hadn't worked in before and listened to a CD to get a feel for the room before starting and the Yamahas sounded great... it was always the same amp.

Bryston 4B or 4B st

You cannot go wrong with this unit!!! images/icons/wink.gif

Brent Hahn
02-11-2003, 08:46 AM
The other nice thing about Bryston (if you're buying used/eBay etc.) is the transferrable warranty -- something like 25 years. So if it shows up DOA, you're not totally screwed.

BH

Mastersonics
02-11-2003, 03:57 PM
hi
thanks everyone for the great info
here's the situation:

a friend of mine is closing his studio and
he is selling a Hot House One Thousand model
plus a Muse 100 series amp.

i was wondering if any of you heard or
used any of these ones.
what's your take on these amps etc...

i'm also looking at the Bryston
just want to see if these are good amps as well

thanks for any info
regards,
charles

bryston
02-11-2003, 05:30 PM
Ashley fet 500 or 200s work well also

stick
02-11-2003, 08:37 PM
I have a hafler p1500 trans nova amp for sale. It's just sitting there I will sell it for $150 u.s dollars. If any are interested I can be reached at dmacaraeg@sprintpcs.com images/icons/smile.gif

Matt Zeiner
02-11-2003, 09:31 PM
I recently set up a pair of NS-10s with a Crown K1. Both myself and the client were more than adequately impressed. No fan, runs quiet and sounds like music. Beware of the Hafler Pro5000 series from the early 90's...very unreliable units. A major movie theatre chain I used to do service for had them in a multiplex and after ALL of them (we are talking 12 Bi-Amped SDDS 8 channel Plus subs screens all using them) failed 3-4 times over a 1.5 year period, they had to throw them out. Hafler kinda gave up on them, too. Not a very good record....I spec Crown, BGW and Yamaha now.

Mastersonics
02-12-2003, 03:10 PM
hi
is anyone familiar with the Hothouse One Thousand
and the Muse 100 series power amps?

please let me know your take on these ones

i'm getting a killer price on both amps

just want to know if they are great or just so so amps,
comparing it to the allmighty Bryston 4B

please let me know
thanks,
charles

MarcoM
02-12-2003, 05:25 PM
Hi there,

I'm not familiar with the amps you've mentioned, but my experience with the NS-10s is that they sound WAY better if you use an amp rated well in excess of 100W.

The only problem I've had was when the amp was too small and it clipped, generating square waves which in the long run damaged the drivers.

The NS-10s can take short peaks over the nominal 50-60W (depending on which model you've got: consumer or studio?), and transients are better played by rather robust amps. We usually employ Quad 520f, Bryston 4B, Amcron 300A amps, but I've used them even with a C-Audio RA-3000 (450WPC!) and I never had any problem.

Brent Hahn
02-13-2003, 09:08 AM
I'm not familiar with the amps you've mentioned, but my experience with the NS-10s is that they
sound WAY better if you use an amp rated well in excess of 100W.

The only problem I've had was when the amp was too small and it clipped, generating square waves
which in the long run damaged the drivers. <font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Especially true if you're working analog. Rewinding in search mode through an underpowered amp can kill your tweeters in a jiffy.