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righton041
08-05-2005, 06:02 AM
Hi,

This might be an odd question but I'm just after some opinions on the Smart Tool and how many people use it compared to how many people don't like it. I've always selected my tools using F-keys, and I feel like my productivity is pretty high with that method. I was just wondering if anybody had any thoughts, or if they think using the Smart key made a massive difference to their workflow. It's certainly not something I took to initially and have been sticking with manual tool selection...

Thanks.

Carl Fuehrer
08-05-2005, 11:19 AM
I use it nearly 80% of the time.

BigBadBill
08-05-2005, 06:24 PM
I'd say I use it 90% of the time.

minister
08-05-2005, 10:05 PM
me too. upwards of 90%

RobMacki
08-05-2005, 10:36 PM
Yep. About 90%.

sleadley
08-07-2005, 01:54 AM
Call me old fashioned but I don't use it. I prefer certainty especially when the tracks are in Small view. I have a 5 button mouse with all the tools programmed so that I am sure which one I am using at any one time. It drives me crazy to have to move the mouse to a particular place to activate the tool. The one that frustrates me the most is the trimmer tool, unless I am close to the end of the region I cannot activate it. Sometimes that is not appropriate. Therefore I don't use it. I realise that I am in the majority, but Hey, viva la difference!
regards
Simon L.

s.d. finley
08-20-2005, 02:03 AM
I love it....use it about 85% of the time.....helps to speed things up, same w/ key commands..

sdf

Brandonx1
08-20-2005, 06:40 AM
I never use it. I can't really control it. I use the command and number keys to change tools. You know, command 1 for zoom, command 2 for trim that kind of thing. I don't really see many people using this method but I believe it is the fastest way to conrol PT and also the most universal way. I freelance at many different studios and at studios that are 14 rooms plus. Somedays I'm popping my head into every mix and edit room and need to control Pt in every room. No time to bring a mouse or trackball with me or to load presets for mouses. One more thing that's great about using this method is you never really need to move your hand from the left bottom of the keyboard. That way, your hand is always by the cut head, tale, and fade keys and most of the PT focus mode editing functions. It's just fast.
Peace,
Brandon

flymax
08-20-2005, 07:38 AM
Don't use it either...keep on trying to get into it but I find it annoying that I lose the selector tool at the front and back of the regions. I put my left hand by the function keys and right hand on the track ball.
Anyone know of a good brail keyboard?

HearInc
08-31-2005, 01:01 PM
Call me old fashioned but I don't use it. I prefer certainty especially when the tracks are in Small view. I have a 5 button mouse with all the tools programmed so that I am sure which one I am using at any one time. It drives me crazy to have to move the mouse to a particular place to activate the tool. The one that frustrates me the most is the trimmer tool, unless I am close to the end of the region I cannot activate it. Sometimes that is not appropriate. Therefore I don't use it. I realise that I am in the majority, but Hey, viva la difference!
regards
Simon L.



Exactly what I do. Multi-button mousers of the world, UNITE!

Andre Knecht
08-31-2005, 02:11 PM
[…] I was just wondering if anybody had any thoughts, or if they think using the Smart key made a massive difference to their workflow. […]



Love the Smart Tool. I use it 95% of the time. Way more efficient than the alternatives, for me. No need to keep your left hand hovering over the F-keys except when you need to change Trimmer & Pencil mode, or switch to the Pencil tool (and back). A free hand can be handy.

R1ch
08-31-2005, 02:56 PM
I use the smart tool 99.9999999% of the time, and if i want, I can scroll through each tool by pressing the jog wheel continously on my mouse this is also efficient for me if I want to do that.

Kenny Gioia
08-31-2005, 07:11 PM
I use it 0% of the time.

Every few months I try to get into it but I always go back.

:roll:

Doc Adams
09-01-2005, 11:24 AM
Hi there,

Well as you can read, there is a majority of users who like Smart Tool. All of us Engineers here at Phantom Sounds us the Smart Tool only on large or bigger track displays. It works great at the higher track displays, but as mentioned earlier, it is next to usless on the smaller track displays.

With that being said, it seems that most of us here use medium or larger (mostly large) track displays to do any of the editing tasks that are contained in the Smart Tool selection. I would suppose that is because that all of us are 50+ years of age and our eyes are not as good as they once were. We hail to the younger Engineers who can edit in the small/mini track displays. But there is a certain amount of fine precision in the larger track displays, and displayed on a 42" LCD at the editing console makes it very nice indeed. About the only complaint that seems to be unamious here is the trimmer tool is still very sensitive so sometimes we must zoom the track as well to get the exact precision that the session requires.

Hope this is of use,

sco
09-01-2005, 03:16 PM
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sco

DigiTechSupt
09-09-2005, 09:31 AM
I use the Smart Tool most of the time but sometimes go to specific tools.

The thing to keep in mind about the Smart Tool is that it is very zoom dependant. Since it's basically using pixels to determine which tools to activate, the farther OUT you are zoomed the less responsive it is.

It becomes much more responsive and, therefore effective/usable, when zoomed in. Exactly how far zoomed in is going to vary from user to user.

The Zoom preset buttons (the 5 chiclets up on the Tools section of the Edit window) are a great compliment to the Smart Tool.

You can have a couple of zoom presets set to zoom levels where you know how the Smart Tools will respond.

When you zoom out and are working more globally to the session you either opt for specific tools or use Smart Tool differently since you know it won't re-act the same as it does zoomed in.

Two cents,
Jon Connolly
Digidesign Product Specialist

kelsey
09-12-2005, 09:47 PM
I personaly use the smart tool around 65% of the time. I find it extremely efficient when doing a lot of editing, but in some sessions, I may do a lot or rearanging, or just trimming, etc.. and I switch to the individual tool, cause thats the majority of the action I am doing. To me it's just another tool, just like the rest, the right tool for the right job.
Just the way I see it
Peace
Kelsey

K.I.
09-12-2005, 10:11 PM
When I am good at lockable and a smart tool, I am glad of TCE and the hand. It always fails after it works of TCE.
Therefore, it is sometimes TCE and it leads to the mistake though it works with F key.
Didi,
If it comes not to become TCE no matter how it pushes if the trim tool is pushed while pushing the command key, my idea is the highest.

Andre Knecht
09-13-2005, 12:46 AM
Any idea carrying two 's is automatically “the highest” (regardless “If it comes not to become TCE”).

Where are you when we really need you, Didi?


PS: As in the past, my friendliest apologies to K.I.

digidesigner
09-13-2005, 06:56 AM
fade ins and outs are the main reason why I use the smart tool.

Kenny Gioia
09-13-2005, 01:09 PM
That's the way I used to do it 100% of time.

But now you can just highlight a section (even beyond the audio) and type - F.

digidesigner
09-13-2005, 03:02 PM
That's the way I used to do it 100% of time.

But now you can just highlight a section (even beyond the audio) and type - F.



I like to keep'em hand-made. Adds additional value to the recordings

PRATHAP
09-14-2005, 11:43 PM
could u please assist me to buy a mouse like what u r using. I'll be thankful if u tell me something more than what u r having "though I am the same five fingures".

worldsend
09-17-2005, 02:08 PM
i am using the smart tool nearly 98% percent of all the time except there is some editing to do which already scremas loud for a more dedicated single tool like the trimmer. i can not imagine working without the smart tool.