View Full Version : ASIO is becoming a standard for audio/sequencing apps.....when will digi support this on PC?
sixgun
10-28-1998, 09:14 AM
When can us PC users expect ASIO drivers for Digi products. While your hardware is the same across platforms your software e: drivers are not. How can you charge the same price from a PC user who will only get half the functionality out of the gear?
I'm speaking in particular about the AMIII and lack of ASIO - Full Duplex drivers. I paid $1200 and I still can't record and playback at the same time. Hardly a profeesional product. Please help me and other AMIII PC users by showing Digi has the ability to support the PC platform. Considering what I've gone through with the AMIII I for one am very, very reluctant to upgrade to PT for NT when Digi can't even release proper PC drivers. It's been 2 years and waiting Digi. What does the future hold?
Musiclab
11-02-1998, 03:18 PM
ASIO = cheap & slow. It has very high latencies - even on the best hardware when compared with TDM. Automation and response are nothing compared to TDM.
There are in fact ASIO drivers now available for Direct I/O -> the Project II Card. This is an issue that you need to take up with Steinberg.
sixgun
11-03-1998, 09:05 AM
Well, I've been told that Logic and Vision will now be using ASIO as well as VST. As far as latency I don't really care....right now I can't even record and playback at the same time thanks to digi drivers.
Talk to Steinberg - this is not Steinberg's problem, they have been asking Digidesign for a low-level driver for 2 years. True, it is Steinberg who would make the ASIO driver but Digi must supply them with a low-level driver first.
Do you really think I would buy a project II card when I'm this dissatisfied with my AMIII????? Talk about a waste of money.
BTW. TDM is not availlable on PC for VST
cortone
11-04-1998, 03:46 PM
I think Musiclab meant that Windows MME=cheap and slow-500+ ms of latency, sometimes more than a full second. This is a Windows-related problem. ASIO=under 50 ms latency, but is still not available for all sound cards. This is a Steinberg-related solution to the Windows related problem. Don't use TDM/Mac, so can't comment about that. If you want PC-native digital audio, check out Creamware products.
Musiclab
11-04-1998, 04:24 PM
ASIO does not require a low level driver. It accesses the hardware directly. That is how it achieves better timing than windows - by bypassing the driver.
With a TDM system: analog signal, into system, recorded to hard disk, into TDM mixer and back out again all in about 4 samples = 0.1 msec. This is even quicker than a simple input delay on any of the Yamaha digital desks (O2R for example = 25 samples in to out)
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